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[MR-from-NG]

Do you really believe that GC's will persicute you if we did return to the pre 1974 status. A country that's in the EU and has signed up to all the Human Rights treaties.

So, according to George if you put a racing saddle on a donkey it becomes a racing horse.

George oh George, being in the EU changes Jack shit. You are still an aggressive race with nothing but hatred for the TCs. You would exterminate us at the drop of a hat. EU my arse

So if it's nothing but hatred why did you go to the meetings with GCs?

And who would exterminate you Mrfomng?
a)The younger generation that plays war games on computers?
b)The older generation who suffer all the consequences of 74 and spent most of our lives abroad to survive? or
c)The Eokas and the TMTs who if they are not already dead they are now eating only soups at night, and walking with sticks.

The truth is yes there is bitterness on both sides but once the SOURCE of bitterness is removed and everybody gets his rights, then I don't see any danger for anyone.

Pyrp,

It was a pleasure to meet GR, DT, Bananiot and TC forum members for lunch. I would do it again if the opportunity presented itself.

I have always said that we do not have any problems on individual basis. I would happily live side by side with my distant cousins. These cousins would have to be law abiding, have respect for their fellow man and free of all things evil.

The problem we have is obviously getting along harmoniously as 2 separate communities. Lets be honest, our history dictates that we will have these problems as long as we are in existence.

Some examples; To you a president to us a terrorist, a murderer and a Turk hater. 20th of July, for us a day of celebration to you a day of invasion and ethnic cleansing. Turkey, to us, our big brother, our saviour and guardian, without them we probably wouldn't exist. Turkey and Turks to you are your life long enemy and you hate them with a passion.

The 1960 constitution and what followed proved without a shadow of a doubt that you do not consider us as equal, and we are not worthy of sharing power with you, I honestly believe you think of us as the Israelis think of the Palestinians, sub human.

The yes vote at the referendum was an extended hand from my community for peace and reconciliation on which you spat. You lied and cheated your way into the EU with total disregard for the TC community.

Pyrp the list is endless. I cannot hold GR, DT or Bananiot responsible for our countries history, they are individuals and just like me they are victims of circumstances. I hold no grudge against them and I hope they think the same about me and my fellow TCs.

[Sotos]

The problem we have is obviously getting along harmoniously as 2 separate communities. Lets be honest, our history dictates that we will have these problems as long as we are in existence.

I agree. The problems started when Turks invaded Cyprus in 1571 and they never ended. The Turks like the Israelis do with the Palestinians occupy our island and violate our human rights. The problem will be solved when the Turks leave from our island and allow us to live free in our country!

[MR-from-NG]

The problem we have is obviously getting along harmoniously as 2 separate communities. Lets be honest, our history dictates that we will have these problems as long as we are in existence.

I agree. The problems started when Turks invaded Cyprus in 1571 and they never ended. The Turks like the Israelis do with the Palestinians occupy our island and violate our human rights. The problem will be solved when the Turks leave from our island and allow us to live free in our country!

Sotos, you know that's not gonna happen so how about some sensible input from you. TCs are here now and will be in the future, they are real and should be treated as such. It is the likes of you that are the root of the problem, not 1571. These dates are now insignificant. Get over it will you.

[Sotos]

Why I am the problem? I want to live free in my island but you Turks occupy it! The problem is that you came to our island and did so many crimes against us and now you want to take our land! If you can not live together with Cypriots then go back to Turkey.

[phoenix]

The problem we have is obviously getting along harmoniously as 2 separate communities. Lets be honest, our history dictates that we will have these problems as long as we are in existence.

I agree. The problems started when Turks invaded Cyprus in 1571 and they never ended. The Turks like the Israelis do with the Palestinians occupy our island and violate our human rights. The problem will be solved when the Turks leave from our island and allow us to live free in our country!

Sotos, you know that's not gonna happen so how about some sensible input from you. TCs are here now and will be in the future, they are real and should be treated as such. It is the likes of you that are the root of the problem, not 1571. These dates are now insignificant. Get over it will you.

As Sotos said Turks invaded 1571 and that never ended . . . and then we had a re-invasion in 1974 and that date is not INSIGNIFICANT . . . and we will not GET OVER IT until turkey leaves Cyprus alone!

[MR-from-NG]

Why I am the problem? I want to live free in my island but you Turks occupy it! The problem is that you came to our island and did so many crimes against us and now you want to take our land! If you can not live together with Cypriots then go back to Turkey.

Sotos, I'm not from Turkey. I'm a Cypriot Turk. I have no relatives or friends in Turkey. I would have serious problems integrating with mainland Turks.

Genetically I have more in common with you than I have with Turks. So how can you ask me to go back to somewhwre that I have no desire to.

Your land has been occupied as a result of the actions of some of your own people, so you are a victim like me. The only sensible course of action is to sit like civilised people at the negotiation table and come to a just and meaningful solution. Its not going to happen by you swearing at me or telling me to go back to a place that I don't belong to.

[MR-from-NG]

The problem we have is obviously getting along harmoniously as 2 separate communities. Lets be honest, our history dictates that we will have these problems as long as we are in existence.

I agree. The problems started when Turks invaded Cyprus in 1571 and they never ended. The Turks like the Israelis do with the Palestinians occupy our island and violate our human rights. The problem will be solved when the Turks leave from our island and allow us to live free in our country!

Sotos, you know that's not gonna happen so how about some sensible input from you. TCs are here now and will be in the future, they are real and should be treated as such. It is the likes of you that are the root of the problem, not 1571. These dates are now insignificant. Get over it will you.

As Sotos said Turks invaded 1571 and that never ended . . . and then we had a re-invasion in 1974 and that date is not INSIGNIFICANT . . . and we will not GET OVER IT until turkey leaves Cyprus alone!

And going back in time is going to achieve what? If that's the way you feel Phoenix then go and find somebody from the Ottoman Empire take this matter up with them.

How on earth can we go forward if we keep going back and back in time. You guys have to come to terms and learn to let go. Your obsession with the Ottomans is at such unhealthy extremes its unbelievable.

[Sotos]

Before you said "Lets be honest, our history dictates that we will have these problems as long as we are in existence. " and now you say "The only sensible course of action is to sit like civilised people at the negotiation table and come to a just and meaningful solution." Are you playing games? My country is occupied because YOU want to occupy it. The action is Turkish invasions in 1571 and 1974 and the result is what we have today. If the Turks did not invade our island we would be free today. You are our problem. I don't mind if you stay in Cyprus but you have no right to occupy our island!!

[Sotos]

You guys have to come to terms and learn to let go.

You want me to let go of the land you stole from me? Why you don't let go of Cyprus and go back to Turkey and let us free in our island?

[miltiades]

Why I am the problem? I want to live free in my island but you Turks occupy it! The problem is that you came to our island and did so many crimes against us and now you want to take our land! If you can not live together with Cypriots then go back to Turkey.

Sotos, I'm not from Turkey. I'm a Cypriot Turk. I have no relatives or friends in Turkey. I would have serious problems integrating with mainland Turks.

Genetically I have more in common with you than I have with Turks. So how can you ask me to go back to somewhwre that I have no desire to.

Your land has been occupied as a result of the actions of some of your own people, so you are a victim like me. The only sensible course of action is to sit like civilised people at the negotiation table and come to a just and meaningful solution. Its not going to happen by you swearing at me or telling me to go back to a place that I don't belong to.

I endorse the above post by MRfromNG without any reservations.
There is , as he says , no other feasible solution but to sit down as civilized people and negotiate.
May I also add that I do not see any signs from the ROC goverment endorsing its stated position that Cyprus is an independant nation and repressentative of all Cypriots. No efforts to substantiate this position are in progress , lets start by abandoning the Greek national anthem for a start.