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[MR-from-NG]

The Annan plan was perhaps not the most well balanced and you may have valid reasons for rejecting it. Your community not only rejected the "plan" they clearly rejected the TCs too. This was clear for the world to see.

And what evidence do you have to cite in order to back up this claim, outside the distorting slogans that your leadership has been "spoon feeding" your imagination with? Oh, I almost forgot it, you saw on TV some Greek Cypriots celebrating!

Anybody who watched news channels outside of the RoC would have seen this. I have no reason to lie. Kids of 7-8-9-10, middle aged and the elderly they all said it loud and clear "WE WILL VOTE NO BECAUSE WE DON WANT TO LIVE WITH TURKS" These words were heard on BBC, ITV, CH4 and FIVE, CNN, FOX, EURONEWS and many more.

Don't be so silly kardesim.......Every GC read and, most importantly, understood every word and political decision in the Annan Plan and voted accordingly....Masallah! These people are clever.......

Zan, I would guess no more than 10% knew or understood the contents of the plan. They voted purely from the heart. they did it from the heart and their heart told them "vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

They did what they were told to do, which was, vote Yes because it is a good plan for the TC's, and it was, no lies there. Now they are told to push for Partition.

Can you not see the parallels here.

One partition was designed to come through the Annan Plan, and since that did not happen, now it's being tried to do it directly.

There's no shame being honest here MR-from-NG, but for you to be able to read other peoples Hearts and Minds with your claim here with this

"and their heart told them vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

is truly amazing. Who needs to listen to their words, when you are able to "hear their thinking" instead.

Goldenballs spends 2 weeks in 42 years in Cyprus and then has the fucking audacity to question my judgement on people that I know better than they know themselves.

Stick to brownnosing and enhancing your popularity Kik

[Get Real!]

Please note the Greek flags carried by Greek Cypriots at the Anan Plan referendum, it tells you the real reason why they voted "OXI".

For the love of God... don't tell me it's ENOSIS...

Go on GR, tell us why "Cypriots" would carry a foreign flag then.

Who is more qualified to answer that question Dayi?

Me or you?

The photos say it all GR but you are the one who is trying to dispute it so go ahead and tell us.

I don't believe this guy! He carries the Turkish flag around and asks me why some Cypriots carry foreign flags!

[Get Real!]

The Annan plan was perhaps not the most well balanced and you may have valid reasons for rejecting it. Your community not only rejected the "plan" they clearly rejected the TCs too. This was clear for the world to see.

And what evidence do you have to cite in order to back up this claim, outside the distorting slogans that your leadership has been "spoon feeding" your imagination with? Oh, I almost forgot it, you saw on TV some Greek Cypriots celebrating!

Anybody who watched news channels outside of the RoC would have seen this. I have no reason to lie. Kids of 7-8-9-10, middle aged and the elderly they all said it loud and clear "WE WILL VOTE NO BECAUSE WE DON WANT TO LIVE WITH TURKS" These words were heard on BBC, ITV, CH4 and FIVE, CNN, FOX, EURONEWS and many more.

Don't be so silly kardesim.......Every GC read and, most importantly, understood every word and political decision in the Annan Plan and voted accordingly....Masallah! These people are clever.......

It has since been determined that the only GC crazy enough to have read the 9,000 page report was Kifeas!

I notice that you did not mention as to whether he understood it or not???

That's a given... he wrote it!

[zan]

The Annan plan was perhaps not the most well balanced and you may have valid reasons for rejecting it. Your community not only rejected the "plan" they clearly rejected the TCs too. This was clear for the world to see.

And what evidence do you have to cite in order to back up this claim, outside the distorting slogans that your leadership has been "spoon feeding" your imagination with? Oh, I almost forgot it, you saw on TV some Greek Cypriots celebrating!

Anybody who watched news channels outside of the RoC would have seen this. I have no reason to lie. Kids of 7-8-9-10, middle aged and the elderly they all said it loud and clear "WE WILL VOTE NO BECAUSE WE DON WANT TO LIVE WITH TURKS" These words were heard on BBC, ITV, CH4 and FIVE, CNN, FOX, EURONEWS and many more.

Don't be so silly kardesim.......Every GC read and, most importantly, understood every word and political decision in the Annan Plan and voted accordingly....Masallah! These people are clever.......

It has since been determined that the only GC crazy enough to have read the 9,000 page report was Kifeas!

I notice that you did not mention as to whether he understood it or not???

That's a given... he wrote it!

That I can believe......How else would TPap know what to reject before hand.

[Kikapu]

The Annan plan was perhaps not the most well balanced and you may have valid reasons for rejecting it. Your community not only rejected the "plan" they clearly rejected the TCs too. This was clear for the world to see.

And what evidence do you have to cite in order to back up this claim, outside the distorting slogans that your leadership has been "spoon feeding" your imagination with? Oh, I almost forgot it, you saw on TV some Greek Cypriots celebrating!

Anybody who watched news channels outside of the RoC would have seen this. I have no reason to lie. Kids of 7-8-9-10, middle aged and the elderly they all said it loud and clear "WE WILL VOTE NO BECAUSE WE DON WANT TO LIVE WITH TURKS" These words were heard on BBC, ITV, CH4 and FIVE, CNN, FOX, EURONEWS and many more.

Don't be so silly kardesim.......Every GC read and, most importantly, understood every word and political decision in the Annan Plan and voted accordingly....Masallah! These people are clever.......

Zan, I would guess no more than 10% knew or understood the contents of the plan. They voted purely from the heart. they did it from the heart and their heart told them "vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

They did what they were told to do, which was, vote Yes because it is a good plan for the TC's, and it was, no lies there. Now they are told to push for Partition.

Can you not see the parallels here.

One partition was designed to come through the Annan Plan, and since that did not happen, now it's being tried to do it directly.

There's no shame being honest here MR-from-NG, but for you to be able to read other peoples Hearts and Minds with your claim here with this

"and their heart told them vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

is truly amazing. Who needs to listen to their words, when you are able to "hear their thinking" instead.

Goldenballs spends 2 weeks in 42 years in Cyprus and then has the fucking audacity to question my judgement on people that I know better than they know themselves.

Stick to brownnosing and enhancing your popularity Kik

Actually it was 43 years, but who's counting.

Just because you knew how your cousins felt does not make it the same for everyone else. You already admitted that very few TC's knew what was in the AP, so they voted Yes, because they were told it was good for them, and it was. TC could not have lost anything by voting Yes, so why are you surprised with their Yes vote. Now that most of the AP details are in the open, I'm really amazed that you still blame the GC's for saying OXI to AP.

[zan]

The Annan plan was perhaps not the most well balanced and you may have valid reasons for rejecting it. Your community not only rejected the "plan" they clearly rejected the TCs too. This was clear for the world to see.

And what evidence do you have to cite in order to back up this claim, outside the distorting slogans that your leadership has been "spoon feeding" your imagination with? Oh, I almost forgot it, you saw on TV some Greek Cypriots celebrating!

Anybody who watched news channels outside of the RoC would have seen this. I have no reason to lie. Kids of 7-8-9-10, middle aged and the elderly they all said it loud and clear "WE WILL VOTE NO BECAUSE WE DON WANT TO LIVE WITH TURKS" These words were heard on BBC, ITV, CH4 and FIVE, CNN, FOX, EURONEWS and many more.

Don't be so silly kardesim.......Every GC read and, most importantly, understood every word and political decision in the Annan Plan and voted accordingly....Masallah! These people are clever.......

Zan, I would guess no more than 10% knew or understood the contents of the plan. They voted purely from the heart. they did it from the heart and their heart told them "vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

They did what they were told to do, which was, vote Yes because it is a good plan for the TC's, and it was, no lies there. Now they are told to push for Partition.

Can you not see the parallels here.

One partition was designed to come through the Annan Plan, and since that did not happen, now it's being tried to do it directly.

There's no shame being honest here MR-from-NG, but for you to be able to read other peoples Hearts and Minds with your claim here with this

"and their heart told them vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

is truly amazing. Who needs to listen to their words, when you are able to "hear their thinking" instead.

Goldenballs spends 2 weeks in 42 years in Cyprus and then has the fucking audacity to question my judgement on people that I know better than they know themselves.

Stick to brownnosing and enhancing your popularity Kik

Actually it was 43 years, but who's counting.

Just because you knew how your cousins felt does not make it the same for everyone else. You already admitted that very few TC's knew what was in the AP, so they voted Yes, because they were told it was good for them, and it was. TC could not have lost anything by voting Yes, so why are you surprised with their Yes vote. Now that most of the AP details are in the open, I'm really amazed that you still blame the GC's for saying OXI to AP.

If they did not know what was in the Annan Plan then how would they know it would have been all good for them Kiks??? You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel....(Nautical term for you). Yes they were excited about being in the EU and that was about that. They really thought that unification and the return to normal was going to happen so you not knowing anything about it and slandering the TC people is an absolute shame on you You have defended that butcher Makarios but you can sit there and denigrate all the TCs without a single bit of guilt...What a sad case you really are. Where was you Tpap when all the negotiations wee happening and why did he double cross the UN and the EU.......They ae pissed off at him for that so what does that tell you Einstein???

[Kikapu]

The Annan plan was perhaps not the most well balanced and you may have valid reasons for rejecting it. Your community not only rejected the "plan" they clearly rejected the TCs too. This was clear for the world to see.

And what evidence do you have to cite in order to back up this claim, outside the distorting slogans that your leadership has been "spoon feeding" your imagination with? Oh, I almost forgot it, you saw on TV some Greek Cypriots celebrating!

Anybody who watched news channels outside of the RoC would have seen this. I have no reason to lie. Kids of 7-8-9-10, middle aged and the elderly they all said it loud and clear "WE WILL VOTE NO BECAUSE WE DON WANT TO LIVE WITH TURKS" These words were heard on BBC, ITV, CH4 and FIVE, CNN, FOX, EURONEWS and many more.

Don't be so silly kardesim.......Every GC read and, most importantly, understood every word and political decision in the Annan Plan and voted accordingly....Masallah! These people are clever.......

Zan, I would guess no more than 10% knew or understood the contents of the plan. They voted purely from the heart. they did it from the heart and their heart told them "vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

They did what they were told to do, which was, vote Yes because it is a good plan for the TC's, and it was, no lies there. Now they are told to push for Partition.

Can you not see the parallels here.

One partition was designed to come through the Annan Plan, and since that did not happen, now it's being tried to do it directly.

There's no shame being honest here MR-from-NG, but for you to be able to read other peoples Hearts and Minds with your claim here with this

"and their heart told them vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

is truly amazing. Who needs to listen to their words, when you are able to "hear their thinking" instead.

Good old Kiks still distorting things for the GC side...


I think we can safely deduce that the ordinary person did not read or understand the Annan Plan and that includes me and you if you are honest. You are just spouting off the GC propaganda shit that you think you know. Can you give us all the points in which the TPapman should have negotiate better with...How many years did Mr. Kofi Annan spend talking to him and he forget to tell the rest of the people involved that he was not really happy but as they were going to be allowed into the EU then they might as well have a vote anyway and see how it all goes......





You may accept the GC trickery mate but we true TCs will not....The fait accompli will not work as in the case of a false and illegal "RoC". You have a choice though..

I was as much in the dark as most Cypriots were. There was no other way, was there. So the TC's were told to vote "Yes" and the GC's were told to vote "No" based on those who knew what was in the plan. Each side got the results they were after at that time. Now three years later, do you not see many faults in the AP, that was not going to benefit a stable Unification of Cyprus for very long.

[Eric dayi]

Please note the Greek flags carried by Greek Cypriots at the Anan Plan referendum, it tells you the real reason why they voted "OXI".

For the love of God... don't tell me it's ENOSIS...

Go on GR, tell us why "Cypriots" would carry a foreign flag then.

Who is more qualified to answer that question Dayi?

Me or you?

The photos say it all GR but you are the one who is trying to dispute it so go ahead and tell us.

I don't believe this guy! He carries the Turkish flag around and asks me why some Cypriots carry foreign flags!

You keep calling the Greek flag foreign because you claim you are a "True Cypriot" and you still say it's ok to carry the Greek flag and expect us TCs to believe you don't want ENOSIS?

[zan]

The Annan plan was perhaps not the most well balanced and you may have valid reasons for rejecting it. Your community not only rejected the "plan" they clearly rejected the TCs too. This was clear for the world to see.

And what evidence do you have to cite in order to back up this claim, outside the distorting slogans that your leadership has been "spoon feeding" your imagination with? Oh, I almost forgot it, you saw on TV some Greek Cypriots celebrating!

Anybody who watched news channels outside of the RoC would have seen this. I have no reason to lie. Kids of 7-8-9-10, middle aged and the elderly they all said it loud and clear "WE WILL VOTE NO BECAUSE WE DON WANT TO LIVE WITH TURKS" These words were heard on BBC, ITV, CH4 and FIVE, CNN, FOX, EURONEWS and many more.

Don't be so silly kardesim.......Every GC read and, most importantly, understood every word and political decision in the Annan Plan and voted accordingly....Masallah! These people are clever.......

Zan, I would guess no more than 10% knew or understood the contents of the plan. They voted purely from the heart. they did it from the heart and their heart told them "vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

They did what they were told to do, which was, vote Yes because it is a good plan for the TC's, and it was, no lies there. Now they are told to push for Partition.

Can you not see the parallels here.

One partition was designed to come through the Annan Plan, and since that did not happen, now it's being tried to do it directly.

There's no shame being honest here MR-from-NG, but for you to be able to read other peoples Hearts and Minds with your claim here with this

"and their heart told them vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

is truly amazing. Who needs to listen to their words, when you are able to "hear their thinking" instead.

Good old Kiks still distorting things for the GC side...


I think we can safely deduce that the ordinary person did not read or understand the Annan Plan and that includes me and you if you are honest. You are just spouting off the GC propaganda shit that you think you know. Can you give us all the points in which the TPapman should have negotiate better with...How many years did Mr. Kofi Annan spend talking to him and he forget to tell the rest of the people involved that he was not really happy but as they were going to be allowed into the EU then they might as well have a vote anyway and see how it all goes......





You may accept the GC trickery mate but we true TCs will not....The fait accompli will not work as in the case of a false and illegal "RoC". You have a choice though..

I was as much in the dark as most Cypriots were. There was no other way, was there. So the TC's were told to vote "Yes" and the GC's were told to vote "No" based on those who knew what was in the plan. Each side got the results they were after at that time. Now three years later, do you not see many faults in the AP, that was not going to benefit a stable Unification of Cyprus for very long.

Still missing the point Kiks....Where the hell was TPap all the time...Why was he not negotiating hard for all Cypriots within the Plan. Why did he wait until the last minute to pull an OXI out of his arse.....We all why but you seem not to want to know why or are incapable. You can't have a surprise party for yourself......

[MR-from-NG]

The Annan plan was perhaps not the most well balanced and you may have valid reasons for rejecting it. Your community not only rejected the "plan" they clearly rejected the TCs too. This was clear for the world to see.

And what evidence do you have to cite in order to back up this claim, outside the distorting slogans that your leadership has been "spoon feeding" your imagination with? Oh, I almost forgot it, you saw on TV some Greek Cypriots celebrating!

Anybody who watched news channels outside of the RoC would have seen this. I have no reason to lie. Kids of 7-8-9-10, middle aged and the elderly they all said it loud and clear "WE WILL VOTE NO BECAUSE WE DON WANT TO LIVE WITH TURKS" These words were heard on BBC, ITV, CH4 and FIVE, CNN, FOX, EURONEWS and many more.

Don't be so silly kardesim.......Every GC read and, most importantly, understood every word and political decision in the Annan Plan and voted accordingly....Masallah! These people are clever.......

Zan, I would guess no more than 10% knew or understood the contents of the plan. They voted purely from the heart. they did it from the heart and their heart told them "vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

They did what they were told to do, which was, vote Yes because it is a good plan for the TC's, and it was, no lies there. Now they are told to push for Partition.

Can you not see the parallels here.

One partition was designed to come through the Annan Plan, and since that did not happen, now it's being tried to do it directly.

There's no shame being honest here MR-from-NG, but for you to be able to read other peoples Hearts and Minds with your claim here with this

"and their heart told them vote NO, these are Turks, why would you want to live with Turks. Fuck them they are sub-human, scum Turks, vote NO"

is truly amazing. Who needs to listen to their words, when you are able to "hear their thinking" instead.

Goldenballs spends 2 weeks in 42 years in Cyprus and then has the fucking audacity to question my judgement on people that I know better than they know themselves.

Stick to brownnosing and enhancing your popularity Kik

Actually it was 43 years, but who's counting.

Just because you knew how your cousins felt does not make it the same for everyone else. You already admitted that very few TC's knew what was in the AP, so they voted Yes, because they were told it was good for them, and it was. TC could not have lost anything by voting Yes, so why are you surprised with their Yes vote. Now that most of the AP details are in the open, I'm really amazed that you still blame the GC's for saying OXI to AP.

Kik, in everyone of my posts I agree with my GC friends that the plan was not a well balanced one and understand their reason for voting OXI.

I don't remember claiming the TCs did not know the contents of the plan, I said it for the GCs but I doubt I said it for the TCs. My cousins knew full well the contents and the consequences of a YES vote. They knew they had very little chance to hang onto the properties given in "exchange" and yet they voted YES. They wanted a closure to this life long problem.

My argument is that more than the plan it was the TC community that was rejected. This is fact, not fantasy or the creation of my imagination.

Rejected for being Turks, simple as that.

But hey whats important for Kikapu? answer, to preserve his popularity.

I have now officially mamed you GOLDENBALLS