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Time to consider permanent partition

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby DT. » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:59 pm

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Do you really believe that GC's will persicute you if we did return to the pre 1974 status. A country that's in the EU and has signed up to all the Human Rights treaties.


So, according to George if you put a racing saddle on a donkey it becomes a racing horse.

George oh George, being in the EU changes Jack shit. You are still an aggressive race with nothing but hatred for the TCs. You would exterminate us at the drop of a hat. EU my arse :roll:


So if it's nothing but hatred why did you go to the meetings with GCs?

And who would exterminate you Mrfomng?
a)The younger generation that plays war games on computers?
b)The older generation who suffer all the consequences of 74 and spent most of our lives abroad to survive? or
c)The Eokas and the TMTs who if they are not already dead they are now eating only soups at night, and walking with sticks.

The truth is yes there is bitterness on both sides but once the SOURCE of bitterness is removed and everybody gets his rights, then I don't see any danger for anyone.


to be fair I did look a little mean that day cause my beer was warm.
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:03 pm

The TC's have to stick to the line the turkish goverment keep feeding the world. They are not allowed to speak the truth just bullshit. A bit like their peace operation in 74. A peace operation where young children and women were raped and executed by the turkish milatary.

If you want your children to grow up in a state where freedom of expression isnt allowed then so be it but dont expect the GC's to just allow this to happen. We will make it as difficult as possible for you to be recognised by the rest of the world.

Come on everyone knows what Turks from turkey are all about why do think they are having difficulty getting into the EU because they are murdering bastards. Ask the Armenians, Kurds & Greeks which were butchered.
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Postby T_C » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:18 pm

The Greek Cypriots did the same to TCs hence why we have the same views of YOU as you do of those from Turkey...

So stop pretending as if you "JUST CANT" understand why TCs don't want to live in a unitary state! :roll:
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:28 pm

Was their intercommunal problems in 1974. I dont believe the GC's and the TC's were fighting each other. I dont deny their were problems in the early 60's where the greeks killed many TC's. The problems all stem from when the british ruled the Island. You the TC's sided with them when the GC's were trying to gain independence and that fact was never forgotten. You basicly sided with the enemy so dont blame everything on the GC's.

You believed there propeganda at the time and helped them route out the greeks trying to gain independence. I know we can live side by side but their has to be a leap of faith. I prsonally would like things to return to pre 1974. With the Turkish milatary having a presence on the Island for 20 years to ensure that you are not persicuted. If after 20 years the Island had fully itergrated the Turkish and Greek milatary can both be pulled out.

Would this not be acceptable?
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:28 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote: A bit like their peace operation in 74


It was actually a "Piece Operation". A piece of Cyprus that is.
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Postby T_C » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:32 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:With the Turkish milatary having a presence on the Island for 20 years to ensure that you are not persicuted. If after 20 years the Island had fully itergrated the Turkish and Greek milatary can both be pulled out.

Would this not be acceptable?


Yes that sounds reasonable to me...
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Postby T_C » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:33 pm

Kikapu wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote: A bit like their peace operation in 74


It was actually a "Piece Operation". A piece of Cyprus that is.



I always thought it was the "Turkish Invitation"?!? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:33 pm

Sorry my mistake Kikapu. Your right never looked at it that way.
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:40 pm

T_C wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:With the Turkish milatary having a presence on the Island for 20 years to ensure that you are not persicuted. If after 20 years the Island had fully itergrated the Turkish and Greek milatary can both be pulled out.

Would this not be acceptable?


Yes that sounds reasonable to me...


We have actually agreed on something today. Right you write a letter to talat and Gul and I'll send one to Paps and let's see what they say.

Probably tell us both to F off.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:42 pm

T_C wrote:The Greek Cypriots did the same to TCs hence why we have the same views of YOU as you do of those from Turkey...

So stop pretending as if you "JUST CANT" understand why TCs don't want to live in a unitary state! :roll:


No. GCs did to TCs about the same that TCs did to GCs. What Turks did to GCs was hugely more from every perspective (casualties, amount of time etc)

The difference is that since then the GC policy has been only against Turkey, and not against TCs. This is because we wanted unification, and animosity between GCs and TCs was not something that could help unification.

For example, in the mass graves that were uncovered recently they found many GCs that were executed in cold blood by TCs and not the Turkish army. This, and the other crimes of TCs against us were all but silenced by our education system. Only the crimes of the Turkish army are mentioned.

On the contrary the aim of the regime in the occupied areas was partition, not unification. Animosity between Cypriots serves their aim, and for this reason they exaggerated the crimes of GCs against TCs (without of course mentioning any of the crimes of TCs (or Turkey) against GCs) to make the GCs as the "evil" ones that TCs should not live together again.
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