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How the EU rained on Cyprus parade

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Murataga » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:45 am

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Although I dont agree with miltary parades I am true beleiver that having an heavy army presence in the TRNC has deterred either side form doing anything stupid against one another and has brought about a peaceful exsitence which we did not have prior to 1974.


so you agree with a heavy GC army presence then as well? Otherwise how would we have a detterant from both sides as you put it.


Correct works both ways..


so what was the problem with the s300? you have a very formidable airforce...we have no airforce so to act as a detterant to your airforce we needed the best anti-aircraft system money can buy..


The problem is that you have a record and existing motive for aggression against the TCs. Fortunately you have been neutralized in 1974 by force of arms and since than there is peace in Cyprus. We will not allow you to posess that kind of a threat to us ever again.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:12 am

humanist wrote:VP
They act as a deterrant without them we wouldnt last 5 minutes, can you not feel the anger and venom festering in many GCs on this forum.


VP this uncalled for and provocative post. None of the GC's on this forum have been as abussive and insulting as eric. So there is no need to point the finger.

Why doesn't talat look at other oprtion for security. Request to UN for more troops to act as safeguard whilst the two leaders are working on settlement.

Perhaps you are one of those TC's who will be the first to throw the first stone.



Humanist, Thank God that Sotos does not write too often. One sentence of abuse from him is worth ten of eric_dayis posts. Any more from him I am quite capable of making eric_day blush. :lol: :lol: :lol: I suppose you are proud of him (Sotos-the foul mouth piece)
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Postby Parrydise » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:54 am

Hi guys

Here's a radical one for you.

As most seem to be in agreement with not having a millitary parade,
why not replace it with a "Peace and unification" parade, open for all Cypriots to take part.

Note:- no mention of Greek or Turkish

Show the powers that be, and each other, that in an ideal world this is what you want.

Keep the politics out of it !

This is the basis of looking long term.
This is looking to the future, not dwelling on the past.

(I suppose I'm going to get shot at from both sides now)
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Postby Murataga » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:20 am

Parrydise wrote:Hi guys

Here's a radical one for you.

As most seem to be in agreement with not having a millitary parade,
why not replace it with a "Peace and unification" parade, open for all Cypriots to take part.

Note:- no mention of Greek or Turkish

Show the powers that be, and each other, that in an ideal world this is what you want.

Keep the politics out of it !

This is the basis of looking long term.
This is looking to the future, not dwelling on the past.

(I suppose I'm going to get shot at from both sides now)
MP


Yes for the peace parade, no for the way you want it.

The sadly typical demand to forget or keep silent about who you are for peace is a deal-breaker. I am a Turkish Cypriot and proud of it. I will not keep quiet about being a Turkish Cypriot or let go of any of my rights as a Turkish Cypriot to satisfy anyone or any cause, period.
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Postby DT. » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:33 am

Murataga wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Although I dont agree with miltary parades I am true beleiver that having an heavy army presence in the TRNC has deterred either side form doing anything stupid against one another and has brought about a peaceful exsitence which we did not have prior to 1974.


so you agree with a heavy GC army presence then as well? Otherwise how would we have a detterant from both sides as you put it.


Correct works both ways..


so what was the problem with the s300? you have a very formidable airforce...we have no airforce so to act as a detterant to your airforce we needed the best anti-aircraft system money can buy..


The problem is that you have a record and existing motive for aggression against the TCs. Fortunately you have been neutralized in 1974 by force of arms and since than there is peace in Cyprus. We will not allow you to posess that kind of a threat to us ever again.


Please pay attention to your own words.
you have a record and existing motive for aggression against the TCs
and in the same breath you continue with
Fortunately you have been neutralized in 1974 by force of arms

Funny how its personal agression against humans for TC's during an INTER COMMUNAL conflict where both sides had casulaties....and a completely impersonal neutralisation of agression by Turkey against what sounds like a few machines.....nothing to do with people raped, killed and displaced.

hypocrite.
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Postby Murataga » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:46 am

DT. wrote:
Murataga wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Although I dont agree with miltary parades I am true beleiver that having an heavy army presence in the TRNC has deterred either side form doing anything stupid against one another and has brought about a peaceful exsitence which we did not have prior to 1974.


so you agree with a heavy GC army presence then as well? Otherwise how would we have a detterant from both sides as you put it.


Correct works both ways..


so what was the problem with the s300? you have a very formidable airforce...we have no airforce so to act as a detterant to your airforce we needed the best anti-aircraft system money can buy..


The problem is that you have a record and existing motive for aggression against the TCs. Fortunately you have been neutralized in 1974 by force of arms and since than there is peace in Cyprus. We will not allow you to posess that kind of a threat to us ever again.


Please pay attention to your own words.
you have a record and existing motive for aggression against the TCs
and in the same breath you continue with
Fortunately you have been neutralized in 1974 by force of arms

Funny how its personal agression against humans for TC's during an INTER COMMUNAL conflict where both sides had casulaties....and a completely impersonal neutralisation of agression by Turkey against what sounds like a few machines.....nothing to do with people raped, killed and displaced.

hypocrite.


You attacked, murdered, enclaved and ambargoed TCs which you outnumbered 1 to 4, and in addition you invitied the Greek army to help you in your crimes ( of which your criminal president apolagized in front of the whole world for doing so when the animal he invited to annihilate us bit him). What intercommunal conflict are you talking about?

Crime-promoter.
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Postby humanist » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:49 am

VP either I am naive or I really don't know the capacity of the RoC to act violently. I don't think that if Turkish army were to be repaced by UN forces with view to a settlememnt why the Cyprus national guard or even the dispansion of the national guard at the same time. If anyone trys to do the other one in there willbe severe consequences of war upon home ground by UN as with Iraq.

It appears that if the UN you cannot trust then, Turkey stays end of story back to square one.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:58 am

In the meantime, the UN Secretary General spent 20 whole minutes with Papadopoulos yesterday. If one takes away about 5 minutes for the usual greetings, this leaves 15 minutes in which the two men (sic) discussed the cyprob. Papadopoulos pressed home the need for the July 11 agreement to be implemented. Moun, laughed and said "I support the Kampari agreement and I would be pleased if you can get it going". Then he moved on. He had more pressing issues to deal with. In other parts of the world people are dying by the thousands. From war, hunger, disease.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:59 am

By the way, in which restaurant will the Secretary General meet Mehmet Ali Talat?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:09 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Humanist, Thank God that Sotos does not write too often. One sentence of abuse from him is worth ten of eric_dayis posts...

Sotos stopped at his 4444th posting and now spends most of his time staring at his screen at this magical number for he knows that if he says the slightest it'll be gone... :lol:
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