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[Bananiot]

They should send an invitation for 2008. This is reasonable time, isn't it?

[RichardB]

Interesting point paliometoxo

What are your views on stopping the military parades in the north VP?

Well, the answer is obvious, isnt it? Not recognised by EU and any other nation except Turkey, as you keep on reminding them, why will they stop?

"Why will they not stop" what? The military parades which they do not make nor decide themselves, but the Turkish Army does? Since when Talat's regime dictates anything onto the generals and now the only barrier left is the fact of the non-recognition?

I'm sorry but I dont really understand why I am being quoted here

I asked a question of VP and he gave me an answer

And I went on to give my opinion

I have not mentioned recognition by EU or taken any sides in the political debate over the cyprus issue

It just seemed to me that it is irresponsible to have Military Parades in such a sensative area

Thank you

[denizaksulu]

deniz I think that is poor reason that you have presented.

the esential question is do I agree with military parades, do I agree with the notion of the army essentially build around destroying human life, if you do then you do if you don't well you don't. whether you are members of the EU or not plays no part about your ideology/

end of story.

I accept your argument, but what I am merely stating that the North, as long as they are not recognised, will turn a deaf ear to EU regarding Military Parades.

[humanist]

Deniz I appreciate tat they do not have to listen to anything the EU says. The real question is can they stop a military parade. A gesture is much stronger when it is given without having to be asked. The meaning will be much more powerful than when your asked to do something.

The same for the RoC does it have to have a military parade NO, should it have one NO, what is the point of shoowing off human killing machines?

Should the RoC change the anthem YES, should it wait for a solution NO, should it be asked NO end of story.

Once we begin to use the word BUT we automatically invalidate the experience of others. simply my view on the matter. Try it with your colleagues do a good deed with them each day and see what will come your way. Same thing applies to Cypro.

[Viewpoint]

Although I dont agree with miltary parades I am true beleiver that having an heavy army presence in the TRNC has deterred either side form doing anything stupid against one another and has brought about a peaceful exsitence which we did not have prior to 1974.

[Damsi]

Editorial excerpt CM Thurs, Sept 20

"What kind of message are the two sides sending each other with the staging of military parades? The Turkish army’s parade on the anniversary of the invasion, a day that so many Greek Cypriots associate with pain and suffering could hardly be described as a clarion call for the re-unification of the island.

On the contrary, it provides an excellent argument for those who want the division to be maintained. As for the National Guard’s parade held on Independence Day, although not as intimidating as that of the occupation troops, it cannot possibly inspire positive feelings among the Turkish Cypriots.

Abolishing the military parades, which serve no useful purpose other than to win brownie points for politicians, would be a small, but practical, step in the right direction. It will not solve the Cyprus problem, but it would improve the political climate as it would allow both sides to show a little good will at a time when bad faith and political hostility reign supreme. "

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/

[denizaksulu]

Although I dont agree with miltary parades I am true beleiver that having an heavy army presence in the TRNC has deterred either side form doing anything stupid against one another and has brought about a peaceful exsitence which we did not have prior to 1974.

I can see this turning into a vicious circle. While their is the Turkish military there, on the forum are members (GC) who have promised to fight till they leave. Lets hope its all talk and soon the presence of any military will not be necessay. What chance of that?

[Viewpoint]

Although I dont agree with miltary parades I am true beleiver that having an heavy army presence in the TRNC has deterred either side form doing anything stupid against one another and has brought about a peaceful exsitence which we did not have prior to 1974.

I can see this turning into a vicious circle. While their is the Turkish military there, on the forum are members (GC) who have promised to fight till they leave. Lets hope its all talk and soon the presence of any military will not be necessay. What chance of that?

They act as a deterrant without them we wouldnt last 5 minutes, can you not feel the anger and venom festering in many GCs on this forum.

[denizaksulu]

Although I dont agree with miltary parades I am true beleiver that having an heavy army presence in the TRNC has deterred either side form doing anything stupid against one another and has brought about a peaceful exsitence which we did not have prior to 1974.

I can see this turning into a vicious circle. While their is the Turkish military there, on the forum are members (GC) who have promised to fight till they leave. Lets hope its all talk and soon the presence of any military will not be necessay. What chance of that?

They act as a deterrant without them we wouldnt last 5 minutes, can you not feel the anger and venom festering in many GCs on this forum.

I do see its deterrent effect as it stands. But would the GCs dare attack if the island is de-militarised and all civilians(reserves) disarmed, whilst both sides are in the EU?. There are some who would not trust the GCs.

[DT.]

Although I dont agree with miltary parades I am true beleiver that having an heavy army presence in the TRNC has deterred either side form doing anything stupid against one another and has brought about a peaceful exsitence which we did not have prior to 1974.

so you agree with a heavy GC army presence then as well? Otherwise how would we have a detterant from both sides as you put it.