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IF A BABY IS BORN IN INTERNATIONAL AIR SPACE

Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:21 am

say the baby was from cypriot parents one turkish speaking the other greek speaking and the baby was born in mid air in international air space, ove the ocean , what country does that child belong to since it was born on neutural ground or space and what nationality is he
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Postby twinkle » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:14 am

Both parents are Cypriots....so Cypriot!!!! If they aren't married ultimately the mother takes full parental responsibility so she has the final say.

But if born while flying over a country I believe that they are able to take the nationality of the country they are flying over. However, most airline companies will not allow a woman to fly if she is over 6 months!
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:46 am

twinkle wrote:Both parents are Cypriots....so Cypriot!!!! If they aren't married ultimately the mother takes full parental responsibility so she has the final say.

But if born while flying over a country I believe that they are able to take the nationality of the country they are flying over. However, most airline companies will not allow a woman to fly if she is over 6 months!


i asked if the baby was born over an ocean no country borders just an ocean

the child born in air or sea and in the middle of nowhere in international waters or airspace. becomes a citizen of the world in another words that child has international passport, its only people belonging to a island or a country that put so much importance on their identity to the point of they actualy become rasciest towards other peopel fo the world but many people are n ot aware of this simple fact
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Postby twinkle » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:54 am

There is no such thing as a "citizen of the world" or an international passport. Diplomatically such a passport is not viable as they would not be offered protection from a country. In ths case you state I am sure that the child would become a citizen of the country the plane is registered in. Same goes for a boat in international waters.
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Postby skyvet » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:59 am

My memory is a little faded now, but I'm pretty sure that a baby born under the circumstances you describe assumes the nationality of the airline that is carrying the mother at the time of birth. The nationality of the parents only comes into play should the child subsequently wish to claim dual nationality.
eg : If the birth occured on a Cyprus Airways aircraft, the baby would be Cypriot, and if it occured on a British Airways aircraft, the baby would be British.
This assumption is based on the fact that an aircraft in flight, in international airspace, assumes the same nationality as the airline itself.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:12 pm

id say its wherever ur perants are from not where u are born... if u have two perants from america and ur born in germany id say ur american not german..
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:16 pm

twinkle wrote:There is no such thing as a "citizen of the world" or an international passport. Diplomatically such a passport is not viable as they would not be offered protection from a country. In ths case you state I am sure that the child would become a citizen of the country the plane is registered in. Same goes for a boat in international waters.


to answer both your question
there is such a thing as a citizen of the world and theres is such a thing as a international passport for citizen of the world
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Postby twinkle » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:17 pm

To add, surely it would just define your place of birth and nothing to do with your nationality. A child of Syrian parents for instance that is born here, is it automatically entitled to Cypriot citizenship?
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:31 pm

twinkle wrote:To add, surely it would just define your place of birth and nothing to do with your nationality. A child of Syrian parents for instance that is born here, is it automatically entitled to Cypriot citizenship?


international law is stupid as local goverment laws and the fact is if a child is born in cyprus to a mother from another country then yes the child has cypriot citizenship as his or hers origin of birth place,
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Postby twinkle » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:14 pm

free_cyprus wrote:
twinkle wrote:To add, surely it would just define your place of birth and nothing to do with your nationality. A child of Syrian parents for instance that is born here, is it automatically entitled to Cypriot citizenship?


international law is stupid as local goverment laws and the fact is if a child is born in cyprus to a mother from another country then yes the child has cypriot citizenship as his or hers origin of birth place,




Below is straightfrom the Government website:

Matters of citizenship

The term «Overseas Cypriots» means persons of Cypriot descent who reside abroad even if they do not have Cypriot citizenship.

Cyprus accepts dual citizenship and Overseas Cypriots may have both Cypriot citizenship and citizenship of the country of their residence or of another country.

Any British subject who was born in Cyprus whose father or grandfather was born in Cyprus may become automatically citizen of Cyprus on the 16th August 1960, if he was ordinarily resident in Cyprus at any time in the period of five years immediately prior to the 16th August, 1960.

Any person of Cypriot Origin who was not in Cyprus during the five years prior to 16.8.1960 does not become automatically a citizen of Cyprus. He may apply for citizenship of the Republic of Cyprus, either according to Laws of 1967 - 2001 or to Annex «D» to the Treaty of Establishment of the Republic of Cyprus.

A person born in Cyprus or abroad on or after the 16.8.1960 and living permanently and legally in Cyprus shall automatically be a citizen of the Republic and on application in the prescribed manner if he lives permanently in a foreign country, provided that at the person’s birth any one of his parents was a citizen of the Republic.

Applications, for citizenship are submitted to the Consular Authorities abroad or the office of «Civil Registry and Migration Department» in Nicosia or the Offices of the District Officers if the applicants are in Cyprus.

Adults (over 18) of Cypriot descent, who are citizens of any country and live abroad, may acquire Cypriot Citizenship by application for registration on the basis of Article 4 (3) of the Laws, form M123, (for those born after 16.8.1960). Persons born before 16.8.1960 can apply, for citizenship, either according to the Cyprus citizenship Laws article 5(1) if they are citizens of U.K. and colonies or of a commonwealth country and reside in Cyprus (form 124) or Annex «D» (form M71, M72) if they reside abroad.

Minors (under 18) whose parents have acquired Cypriot citizenship after their birth, may register as Cypriot citizens upon application from their parents on from M126 on the basis of article 5(3) of the above Laws.

Aliens who are married to Cypriot citizens are entitled to apply for Cypriot citizenship, after completing three years of marriage and cohabitation with their Cypriot spouse. The marriage certificate, good character certificate, the birth certificate of the applicant and particulars of the Cypriot spouse (i.e. copy of Cyprus passport) are required. Also a certificate issued by the Chairman of Communal Council (Muhtar) stating that that two spouses have been living continuously in his sector for at least two years immediately prior to the date of their application, should be provided. The applicant must be legally residing in Cyprus. The application must be submitted on form M125 (in duplicate).

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