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IF A BABY IS BORN IN INTERNATIONAL AIR SPACE

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Postby CopperLine » Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:27 pm

There isn't a single answer to this question. However as a general rule a baby born during flight is regarded as having the citizenship of the country in which the aircraft is registered. (It is worth remebering that the country in which a particular aircraft is registered might not actullay be where the airline is registered). By contrast the place of birth is conventionally regarded, that is information as included in a birth certificate, as the point of 'disembarkation' of the new-born !

The problem is that the place of birth might not have any bearing on (a) nationality or (b) even on citizenship. These two matters depend on the national laws of each country.

These conventions, now applied loosly to in-flight births, deive from the conventions on births at sea. Essentially the convention was that nationality corresponded with flag registration of the ship. It is however important not to confuse nationality with citizenship.
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Postby CopperLine » Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:42 pm

I should have added, that there isn't really very much "international air space" anyway, at least as far as commercial flights are concerned since the routes of these flights are almost entirely through regulated national airspace. There are few areas eg, South Pacific where there is little national air control and these few are exclusively in maritime zones. Having said that, national regulated airspace is generally considered to be governed by ... wait for it ... the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea. Thus national airspace is generally coincident in area with various maritime claims and jurisdictions.
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Postby raymanuva » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:45 am

UN Nationality, and will have to be baptized by Secretary General... :D
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Postby DT. » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:40 am

with all the discount airlines now everypne born on a plane will end up having a taz haven nationality...Panama, British Virgin Islands, Bahamas...etc
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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:41 pm

free_cyprus wrote:
twinkle wrote:Both parents are Cypriots....so Cypriot!!!! If they aren't married ultimately the mother takes full parental responsibility so she has the final say.

But if born while flying over a country I believe that they are able to take the nationality of the country they are flying over. However, most airline companies will not allow a woman to fly if she is over 6 months!


i asked if the baby was born over an ocean no country borders just an ocean

the child born in air or sea and in the middle of nowhere in international waters or airspace. becomes a citizen of the world in another words that child has international passport,


What does an international passport look like f_c? I have never seen one and was wondering if it was written in all the languages of the world? Boy, that's be biggun wouldn't it?


Let's just say that you are what you call a "citizen of the world", does that mean that when you visit, say Russia, the Russians must let you enter their country and have no right to tell you to get lost?

What about the USA, is it a must that they give you a green card?

How about China or Greece?

Or any other country for that matter?



its only people belonging to a island or a country that put so much importance on their identity to the point of they actualy become rasciest towards other peopel fo the world but many people are n ot aware of this simple fact


Then you, who lives on an island (Cyprus) and identifies himself as a "proud Cypriot" must be aware of the fact that you are a racist.
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