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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:35 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:My nationality is Cypriot...I am proud to have been born a stone's throw from my dear friend,miltiades...If not by an accident of history I could've been born in miltiades' village and speak Cypriot Greek and be inducted into the Orthodox church. And the same thing could've happened to miltiades and he would've been raised with Cypriot Turkish as mother ton gue and Islam as a faith...But what truly distinguishes us a race of humans is our gene pool which has been proven to be the same...And so are our motherland,our traditions,geography,shared history,folklore,sense of humour,cusine,world view etc...For a brief period,unfortunately,we were brainwashed (well at least some of us were) that we are mortal enemies and cannot possibly cohabit...That monstrous lie is now exposed for what it is...And people like Eric Dayi have to come here and try to make us swollow the poison all over again...I think we can clear our throats and say it altogether....Pisssssssssssss offffffffffffffff!!! You dick-head!!! :) :) :)


Not very brotherly Bir, you are free to live with miltiades all you wish in the designated area to do this the "RoC" but do you feel it fair that you try to force us to do the same? For now 37% is our safe have from a totally GC state where we do not belong and people like Phoenix have been honest to tell us the underlying truth that they still regard Cyprus thier as they are the "natives" and you as a foreigner like you are where ever you live. So according to Phoenix and I am certain many others you do nto really belong here but the GCs are being charitable and allowing you to stay as long as you abide by their rules and they can control your future. Wake up this is what you are really dealing with, have you told miltiades about the story concerning the shadow of the TC? never forget that story as it will catch you when you least expect it and knock all your goodwill and you to kingdom come.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:09 pm

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Birkibrisli wrote:My nationality is Cypriot...I am proud to have been born a stone's throw from my dear friend,miltiades...If not by an accident of history I could've been born in miltiades' village and speak Cypriot Greek and be inducted into the Orthodox church. And the same thing could've happened to miltiades and he would've been raised with Cypriot Turkish as mother ton gue and Islam as a faith...But what truly distinguishes us a race of humans is our gene pool which has been proven to be the same...And so are our motherland,our traditions,geography,shared history,folklore,sense of humour,cusine,world view etc...For a brief period,unfortunately,we were brainwashed (well at least some of us were) that we are mortal enemies and cannot possibly cohabit...That monstrous lie is now exposed for what it is...And people like Eric Dayi have to come here and try to make us swollow the poison all over again...I think we can clear our throats and say it altogether....Pisssssssssssss offffffffffffffff!!! You dick-head!!! :) :) :)


Not very brotherly Bir, you are free to live with miltiades all you wish in the designated area to do this the "RoC" but do you feel it fair that you try to force us to do the same? For now 37% is our safe have from a totally GC state where we do not belong and people like Phoenix have been honest to tell us the underlying truth that they still regard Cyprus thier as they are the "natives" and you as a foreigner like you are where ever you live. So according to Phoenix and I am certain many others you do nto really belong here but the GCs are being charitable and allowing you to stay as long as you abide by their rules and they can control your future. Wake up this is what you are really dealing with, have you told miltiades about the story concerning the shadow of the TC? never forget that story as it will catch you when you least expect it and knock all your goodwill and you to kingdom come.

Fanatics exist on both sides , remember it was the fanatics that caused our people to inflict so much pain and suffering on each other. Phoenix is in the minority and so are you VP , after all a UK Born individual of T/C parents isnt exactly the voice of the indigenous T/C. We can only speculate as to your ulterior motives in returning to Cyprus , it most certainly was not your ambition to help in bringing about reconcilition for the people of Cyprus. You continue with the laughable and rather pathetic position that the country that 200 plus nations worldwide recognise as the legal entity , is seen by the likes of you as illegal !!!You who only recognises the "TRNC" . That in itself says a lot about the likes of you and Eric , not my brother of course who is also called Eric but the other Eric Day !!
As for Bir , he is a wise Cypriot , Im proud to call him my brother and I hope that our vision of a united Cyprus soon becomes a reality.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:50 pm

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Birkibrisli wrote:My nationality is Cypriot...I am proud to have been born a stone's throw from my dear friend,miltiades...If not by an accident of history I could've been born in miltiades' village and speak Cypriot Greek and be inducted into the Orthodox church. And the same thing could've happened to miltiades and he would've been raised with Cypriot Turkish as mother ton gue and Islam as a faith...But what truly distinguishes us a race of humans is our gene pool which has been proven to be the same...And so are our motherland,our traditions,geography,shared history,folklore,sense of humour,cusine,world view etc...For a brief period,unfortunately,we were brainwashed (well at least some of us were) that we are mortal enemies and cannot possibly cohabit...That monstrous lie is now exposed for what it is...And people like Eric Dayi have to come here and try to make us swollow the poison all over again...I think we can clear our throats and say it altogether....Pisssssssssssss offffffffffffffff!!! You dick-head!!! :) :) :)


Not very brotherly Bir, you are free to live with miltiades all you wish in the designated area to do this the "RoC" but do you feel it fair that you try to force us to do the same? For now 37% is our safe have from a totally GC state where we do not belong and people like Phoenix have been honest to tell us the underlying truth that they still regard Cyprus thier as they are the "natives" and you as a foreigner like you are where ever you live. So according to Phoenix and I am certain many others you do nto really belong here but the GCs are being charitable and allowing you to stay as long as you abide by their rules and they can control your future. Wake up this is what you are really dealing with, have you told miltiades about the story concerning the shadow of the TC? never forget that story as it will catch you when you least expect it and knock all your goodwill and you to kingdom come.

Fanatics exist on both sides , remember it was the fanatics that caused our people to inflict so much pain and suffering on each other. Phoenix is in the minority and so are you VP , after all a UK Born individual of T/C parents isnt exactly the voice of the indigenous T/C. We can only speculate as to your ulterior motives in returning to Cyprus , it most certainly was not your ambition to help in bringing about reconcilition for the people of Cyprus. You continue with the laughable and rather pathetic position that the country that 200 plus nations worldwide recognise as the legal entity , is seen by the likes of you as illegal !!!You who only recognises the "TRNC" . That in itself says a lot about the likes of you and Eric , not my brother of course who is also called Eric but the other Eric Day !!
As for Bir , he is a wise Cypriot , Im proud to call him my brother and I hope that our vision of a united Cyprus soon becomes a reality.


Do you live anywhere in Cyprus be it north or south?

Should we discredit your arguements because you live in Surrey?

You can be recognized by as many countries as you wish, be honest with yourself does it change anything? The fact is we are still divided and wil lbe until we can find common ground a desire to unite otherwise its business as usual.

As for Phoenix being a minority I think he has voiced the inner thoughts of the majority of GCs, you can ignore this as much as you wish but this is much more your barrier than it is mine.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:37 pm

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Birkibrisli wrote:My nationality is Cypriot...I am proud to have been born a stone's throw from my dear friend,miltiades...If not by an accident of history I could've been born in miltiades' village and speak Cypriot Greek and be inducted into the Orthodox church. And the same thing could've happened to miltiades and he would've been raised with Cypriot Turkish as mother ton gue and Islam as a faith...But what truly distinguishes us a race of humans is our gene pool which has been proven to be the same...And so are our motherland,our traditions,geography,shared history,folklore,sense of humour,cusine,world view etc...For a brief period,unfortunately,we were brainwashed (well at least some of us were) that we are mortal enemies and cannot possibly cohabit...That monstrous lie is now exposed for what it is...And people like Eric Dayi have to come here and try to make us swollow the poison all over again...I think we can clear our throats and say it altogether....Pisssssssssssss offffffffffffffff!!! You dick-head!!! :) :) :)


Not very brotherly Bir, you are free to live with miltiades all you wish in the designated area to do this the "RoC" but do you feel it fair that you try to force us to do the same? For now 37% is our safe have from a totally GC state where we do not belong and people like Phoenix have been honest to tell us the underlying truth that they still regard Cyprus thier as they are the "natives" and you as a foreigner like you are where ever you live. So according to Phoenix and I am certain many others you do nto really belong here but the GCs are being charitable and allowing you to stay as long as you abide by their rules and they can control your future. Wake up this is what you are really dealing with, have you told miltiades about the story concerning the shadow of the TC? never forget that story as it will catch you when you least expect it and knock all your goodwill and you to kingdom come.

Fanatics exist on both sides , remember it was the fanatics that caused our people to inflict so much pain and suffering on each other. Phoenix is in the minority and so are you VP , after all a UK Born individual of T/C parents isnt exactly the voice of the indigenous T/C. We can only speculate as to your ulterior motives in returning to Cyprus , it most certainly was not your ambition to help in bringing about reconcilition for the people of Cyprus. You continue with the laughable and rather pathetic position that the country that 200 plus nations worldwide recognise as the legal entity , is seen by the likes of you as illegal !!!You who only recognises the "TRNC" . That in itself says a lot about the likes of you and Eric , not my brother of course who is also called Eric but the other Eric Day !!
As for Bir , he is a wise Cypriot , Im proud to call him my brother and I hope that our vision of a united Cyprus soon becomes a reality.


Do you live anywhere in Cyprus be it north or south?

Should we discredit your arguements because you live in Surrey?

You can be recognized by as many countries as you wish, be honest with yourself does it change anything? The fact is we are still divided and wil lbe until we can find common ground a desire to unite otherwise its business as usual.

As for Phoenix being a minority I think he has voiced the inner thoughts of the majority of GCs, you can ignore this as much as you wish but this is much more your barrier than it is mine.

You are the voice of partition , the voice that will call the future generations of Cypriots to conflict , the voice that will announce the deaths of many , because rest assured the Cypriot people will neve ever accept a part of our island gifted to a foreign nation. I might accept , those of my generation might accept it but will the future generations accept it .A resounding NO , the partitionists , the Non Cypriots will be responsible for the conflicts to come , and come they will .
My perception is that of the moderates , the true Cypriots , the wise men who call all Cypriots their brothers and sisters , you are a warmonger , a demagogue a fanatic .
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:16 pm

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You are the voice of partition , the voice that will call the future generations of Cypriots to conflict , the voice that will announce the deaths of many , because rest assured the Cypriot people will neve ever accept a part of our island gifted to a foreign nation. I might accept , those of my generation might accept it but will the future generations accept it .A resounding NO , the partitionists , the Non Cypriots will be responsible for the conflicts to come , and come they will .
My perception is that of the moderates , the true Cypriots , the wise men who call all Cypriots their brothers and sisters , you are a warmonger , a demagogue a fanatic .


You are entitled to your viewpoint like I am mine, feel free to prove me wrong and find a solution that all your "brothers" can commit to and if you are the majority as you claim then you have what you want. But you and I both know that the Phoenix, Kifeas, Piratis and Sotos of this world will ensure you fail every time as what they want is not the same as you and they turely respresent the majority of GCs. You have to overcome their intrangience despotness and arrogance before tackling those on the other side of the fence like me Zan TC and Eric who will not budge unless we are able to see a structure where we will be equal communities and not just a minority in a GC state run by Gcs.
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:29 pm

there is only one community in cyprus, i do not recognise turkish or greek communityoes of cyprus but i do recognise they speak turkish and greek, also i dont recognise all this shit about minority and mejority crap either
if we are to live as one people if we are to have peace and harmony then we must take these things from the table that couses cancer in the minds of those who still think they are turkish and those who think they are greeks, we are just cypriots , we are farmers and simple humble people, but they the propaganda macchine those who run the country those traitors are turning our own people into their own enemies, they creating problems for us in our own island.


the truth is all around us in every country where cypriots live that people in power practice and continue to practice devide and rule from leaders to poleticians to radio and t v , and most community centres,

how do i know all this my work as i have said many times in this forum puts me in direct contact with those in power and in most cases i say the same thing to them as im saying here to you people
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:33 pm

free_cyprus wrote:there is only one community in cyprus, i do not recognise turkish or greek communityoes of cyprus but i do recognise they speak turkish and greek, also i dont recognise all this shit about minority and mejority crap either
if we are to live as one people if we are to have peace and harmony then we must take these things from the table that couses cancer in the minds of those who still think they are turkish and those who think they are greeks, we are just cypriots , we are farmers and simple humble people, but they the propaganda macchine those fuckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr who run the country those traitors are turning our own people into their own enemies, they creating problems for us in our own island.

and i have to sit here and real all this shit about your side and their side and bollox side, you see this is what happens when i get excited i start with the feck word lol

the truth is all around us in every country where cypriots live that people in power practice and continue to practice devide and rule from leaders to poleticians to radio and t v , and most community centres,

how do i know all this my work as i have said many times in this forum puts me in direct contact with those in power and in most cases i say the same thing to them as im saying here to you people


You need to read your own constitution and open your window and look out to see the divide looking you in the face every day.
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:38 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:there is only one community in cyprus, i do not recognise turkish or greek communityoes of cyprus but i do recognise they speak turkish and greek, also i dont recognise all this shit about minority and mejority crap either
if we are to live as one people if we are to have peace and harmony then we must take these things from the table that couses cancer in the minds of those who still think they are turkish and those who think they are greeks, we are just cypriots , we are farmers and simple humble people, but they the propaganda macchine those fuckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr who run the country those traitors are turning our own people into their own enemies, they creating problems for us in our own island.

and i have to sit here and real all this shit about your side and their side and bollox side, you see this is what happens when i get excited i start with the feck word lol

the truth is all around us in every country where cypriots live that people in power practice and continue to practice devide and rule from leaders to poleticians to radio and t v , and most community centres,

how do i know all this my work as i have said many times in this forum puts me in direct contact with those in power and in most cases i say the same thing to them as im saying here to you people


You need to read your own constitution and open your window and look out to see the divide looking you in the face every day.



what fecking constetution are you reffering to ????
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:40 pm

free_cyprus wrote:
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free_cyprus wrote:there is only one community in cyprus, i do not recognise turkish or greek communityoes of cyprus but i do recognise they speak turkish and greek, also i dont recognise all this shit about minority and mejority crap either
if we are to live as one people if we are to have peace and harmony then we must take these things from the table that couses cancer in the minds of those who still think they are turkish and those who think they are greeks, we are just cypriots , we are farmers and simple humble people, but they the propaganda macchine those fuckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr who run the country those traitors are turning our own people into their own enemies, they creating problems for us in our own island.

and i have to sit here and real all this shit about your side and their side and bollox side, you see this is what happens when i get excited i start with the feck word lol

the truth is all around us in every country where cypriots live that people in power practice and continue to practice devide and rule from leaders to poleticians to radio and t v , and most community centres,

how do i know all this my work as i have said many times in this forum puts me in direct contact with those in power and in most cases i say the same thing to them as im saying here to you people


You need to read your own constitution and open your window and look out to see the divide looking you in the face every day.



what fecking constetution are you reffering to ????


The fecking "RoC" constitution...
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:46 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:there is only one community in cyprus, i do not recognise turkish or greek communityoes of cyprus but i do recognise they speak turkish and greek, also i dont recognise all this shit about minority and mejority crap either
if we are to live as one people if we are to have peace and harmony then we must take these things from the table that couses cancer in the minds of those who still think they are turkish and those who think they are greeks, we are just cypriots , we are farmers and simple humble people, but they the propaganda macchine those fuckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr who run the country those traitors are turning our own people into their own enemies, they creating problems for us in our own island.

and i have to sit here and real all this shit about your side and their side and bollox side, you see this is what happens when i get excited i start with the feck word lol

the truth is all around us in every country where cypriots live that people in power practice and continue to practice devide and rule from leaders to poleticians to radio and t v , and most community centres,

how do i know all this my work as i have said many times in this forum puts me in direct contact with those in power and in most cases i say the same thing to them as im saying here to you people


You need to read your own constitution and open your window and look out to see the divide looking you in the face every day.



what fecking constetution are you reffering to ????


The fecking "RoC" constitution...




your goign to tell me about the constetution that one that was drawn up by greece and turkey lol

do you know of anyone in cyprus who had a say in that soooo called cosntetution or was makaryos was told to sign on the dotted line with his hands tied behind his back

and you got the cheek to talk about a contetution as if its fecking valid in any shape or form................. well it might be to you amigo but not mention it to me cos to me its not ecceptable, its illigal imoral and it has devided and it has made our peopel fo cyprus suffer that constetituan you speak of

i wonder if you read it
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