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Traffic Cameras to come down??

Postby Hazza » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:33 pm

Source = http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=34816

TRAFFIC CAMERAS around the island were switched off at 4pm yesterday and are set to be dismantled, just three weeks shy of the first anniversary of their appearance.

Communications and Works Minister Maria Malaktou-Pamballi told state television the government had decided to terminate the contract with camera providers Electromatik, after the pilot scheme failed to deliver.

Malaktou-Pamballi said the termination of the contract was effective immediately.

“The agreement, as I said before, was at a crucial point. The trial period had ended and the government had to decide whether it was gong to go ahead with the contract or not,” she said.

“We exhausted all possibilities and decided to terminate the contract. The company did not accept the state’s terms.”

Negotiations had been going on with the company for weeks to try and fix the problems in the system but ultimately failed yesterday.

One of the problems was reported to have been failure of the cameras to properly store some of the photographs on the hard drive. This meant that many drivers were getting away with speeding or jumping red lights, while others are being charged twice for exactly the same offences.

Some of the cameras were also said to be suffering power cuts at busy junctions, while others were reportedly not being correctly serviced.

Electromatik said it was supplying the German manufactured, Robot Visual Systems, which has 70 per cent of the market share in traffic enforcement systems.

However the company has failed to satisfy the government.

Now the government must begin all over again to find a new supplier, which the Minister said will be done as soon as possible. However announcing new tenders and setting a new system is likely to take some time.

The system, which included 33 fixed and seven mobile cameras, was activated on October 11 last year on a one-year trial period.

By 2010, it was hoped that 440 cameras would be installed across the island at a cost of six million pounds.

Since the system was activated, there have been roughly 100,000 violations, generating £1.5 million in fines. Over 600 cars were flashed by the cameras in the past week alone.

Malaktou-Pamballi said any driver caught by the cameras before they were switched off would be still obliged to pay the fine.

Justice Minister Sophocles Sophocleous confirmed that the cameras were turned off at 4pm yesterday. Asked if more police would be out filling in the gap at busy junctions, Sophocleous said: “The policy to battle road accidents is focused on prevention and in changing the road consciousness of drivers,” he said.

“This means that without the cameras, the problem of road accidents could easily be tackled if everyone undertook their personal responsibilities in that area.”


Now I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. I have seen it in early morning chaos in Nicosia where the police are standing at the lights diverting traffic, waving traffic through the red light, cameras flashing like disco lights, but the position of the police wouldn't be visible in the photos.
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Postby devil » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:39 pm

Back to business as usual: creeping forward at red lights, speeding before they turn red and so on. Even if they are not perfect, they should keep them running until the replacements are ready. Let's hope they get the Swiss ones! At least we know they work properly!
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Postby tessintrnc » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:01 pm

Why do they announce they are not working? Wouldnt it keep traffic within the laws if they just kept quiet about it? Surley they have just advertised "go as fast as you like" to everyone?
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:06 pm

Good riddance to those shitty cameras!

If you want to fight road deaths you should target the RELEVANT offending market... inexperienced 17..21 year-olds driving recklessly, often in powerful vehicles.

Where is Cyprus' PROBATIONARY driving license period? Why isn't this age group restricted to 1300cc cars and 250cc bikes? :?
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:33 pm

Get Real! wrote:Good riddance to those shitty cameras!

If you want to fight road deaths you should target the RELEVANT offending market... inexperienced 17..21 year-olds driving recklessly, often in powerful vehicles.

Where is Cyprus' PROBATIONARY driving license period? Why isn't this age group restricted to 1300cc cars and 250cc bikes? :?


GR , the dangerous drivers are not only the 17-21 year olds , but I would think those well passed their twenties.
Cameras in Cyprus are a must as far as I'm concerned. The drivers are undisciplined and only targeting their pockets will instill some road discipline unto them .
Why is it that motorcyclists for instance are tolerated by the police when they clearly violate the law , also those blundering idiots with exhausts the size of a varella , designed for one reason only , to create as much noise as possible and pollute the atmosphere. Revving a car and a bike seems to be a pre occupation with these malakas wankers .
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Postby kafenes » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:46 pm

I drove yesterday in Paphos town for 20 minutes and could spot more then 20 drivers/riders braking the law. either talking on the mobile or riding without a helmet and even crossing red lights. What Cyprus needs is a couple of unmarked police cars in each town going round all day and I can assure you these traffic offenders will decrease. Just knowing that there are unmarked police patrol cars will put most of them off doing these offences.
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:59 pm

It should be possible to modify cars at the factory so they will not exceed a certain predetermined speed. Like 100 km/hr for instance?

Cyprus is 60 miles wide and 150 miles long (approximately, dont hold me to it) so no matter how much in a hurry you are you will get there in reasonable time at any speed. Cars capable of doing 200 plus km/hr are useless in such a small country.

As I am typing thise the radio is reporting on a collision between 2 cars with 7 dead. Happened just outside Athens and the cause is excessive speed. It usually is, as speed increases the kintetic energy, therefore the destructive force, released in an accident.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:57 pm

Just as smoking is still considered " cool " by both G/Cs and Greeks so is fast driving. It is an affliction that is rampant amongst the lower , usually uneducated classes that actually is quite rampant too in most third world countries.
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Postby Hazza » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:08 pm

Nikitas wrote:It should be possible to modify cars at the factory so they will not exceed a certain predetermined speed. Like 100 km/hr for instance?


It is very possible to do, its done on commercial vehicles. Unfortunately, its also very easy to undo.

Some width restriction barriers here and there, heavier fines for those that break the law... christ just £1 for every km/h over the speed limit is no deterrent for many people.

The biggest nuisence are mopeds, be it youngsters with no crash helmets doing wheelies, old men riding their 20year old scooter at 15km/h, coffeeshop deliveries with one hand on the handlebar and the other holding the tray, that is just ridiculous.

Then of course, there are vehicles which shouldn't be allowed on the road at all. Just a week ago, I had a small car accident. I went into the back of a truck who had no brake lights. He stopped suddenly....so did I, underneath him. His vehicle, no damage. My car needs a new bumper, to headlights and the bumper getting tightened back with small scratches.....costing in the region of £450-500 in total (parts and labor). I wasn't speeding, so chris knows what would happen if I had been bombing it down the road. Laws aren' heavy enough at the moment.
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Postby The Microphone » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:12 pm

Devil............you MUST have an interest in these hated speed scameras! Target REAL crime and not a cheap money raising exercise, because all but the really really seriously dim plebs of this planet know that is what scameras are really about!
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