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Lawyer ‘trapped’ by T. Cypriot police

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby erolz » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:28 pm

Piratis wrote:
And that is for a court to decide ulitimatley.


I have a court here at my home. Can I take decisions too?


As its you Piratis - sure you can :)

So would you prefer us to have courts and laws here or not? Feels like we are dammed if we do and dammed if we don't?
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Postby Piratis » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:37 pm

So would you prefer us to have courts and laws here or not?


We would prefer if northen Cyprus had legal courts. This means courts that belong to a legal state. (=RoC or another forum of united Cyprus state).

For me a decision of a "TRNC" court is equal to the decision of a Turkish army general. I mean if the court told to Candounas "if you don't do such and such you will be arrested the next time you come here", or a Turkish general said it, it is exactly the same thing. One decision is no more legal than the other.
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:39 pm

erolz wrote:I am still interested to know how you think hampering his ability to travel in the TRNC stops his ability to prosecute his cases at all? ;)


It doesn't really, I acknowledge that - it just hampers his ability to do "ambulance chasing", which I am opposed to anyway, so I don't see a problem with him not being able to cross over.

I am sure however that his "ambulance chasing" would have been very worrisome to "TRNC" authorities, so I do not forego my theory as to why he was detained ...

erolz wrote:I find this attitude towards foreign residents in the TRNC a little worrying.


I am not against foreigners coming to live in the north, I am against them coming to settle into Greek Cypriot properties.

erolz wrote:Personally I am not in favour of his actions because I do not think they are helping to create the necessary environment to find a really comprehensive solution.


Think about it, Erol: Do you think the sell-out of Greek Cypriot properties is making finding a solution any easier? You know how sensitive GCs are on property issues, if in two years time we are negotiating a settlement and they get next to zero restitution because all their properties have been built on and sold to foreigners, what do you think they will vote at the referendum, Yes or No?

I understand that there is psychological fall-out from this sort of action, but virtually everything that each side is doing nowadays is hurting the other side, we cannot isolate and blame Cantounas' actions.

We need to start serious negotiations for a Comprehensive Settlement as soon as possible: Until then, the "trench warfare" will inevitably continue, poisoning the relationship of the two communities.
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Postby erolz » Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:25 am

Alexandros Lordos wrote:
Think about it, Erol: Do you think the sell-out of Greek Cypriot properties is making finding a solution any easier?


No I do not think it makes a solution any easier. I also do not think the primary motivation is to make a solution harder either - but actually it's primarily finacial.

Alexandros Lordos wrote:I understand that there is psychological fall-out from this sort of action, but virtually everything that each side is doing nowadays is hurting the other side, we cannot isolate and blame Cantounas' actions.


I remain very cautious re mr Cantounas' actions. I am waiting and watching but I think there is a very high probability from what I have seen so far that he has no real interest in either Justice for his clients or for a settlement in Cyprus. So far he strikes me as being most interested in Mr Cantounas - but I will wait and see.

Alexandros Lordos wrote:We need to start serious negotiations for a Comprehensive Settlement as soon as possible: Until then, the "trench warfare" will inevitably continue, poisoning the relationship of the two communities.


Agreed - I just do not 'support' the trench warfare from either side as far as I am able.
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:16 am

What did he expect??? a Mr Popular award?


I see so as a solicitor serving defendants in legal proceedings, he should expect military/police brutality/intimidation/harrassment.

Next time he crosses maybe they give him some electr-o-shock therapy or stick bamboo under his nails.
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Postby brother » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:55 am

Why is that what they practice in the south when they get their hands on a tc?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:23 pm

Agios Amvrosios
Next time he crosses maybe they give him some electr-o-shock therapy or stick bamboo under his nails.


To be honest I dont think he will be visiting the north in the near future if at all, so he has nothing to worry about.
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:51 am

To be honest I dont think he will be visiting the north in the near future if at all, so he has nothing to worry about


Are you condoning this sort of police intimidation. Is intimidation and harassment by the State(let) OK and to be expected?

What are you saying?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:42 am

Agios Amvrosios whos harassing who?? the lawyer has been harassing English residents in Karmi for some time now, nothing new ( I know a few English people who live in that village)so the complaints were going to be addressed by the police sooner or later.
He should be fighting his legal battles in your courts or in UK courts not knocking on doors in Karmi Village.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:52 pm

Viewpoint wrote: To be honest I dont think he will be visiting the north in the near future if at all, so he has nothing to worry about.


And you are soooo happy of that, aren’t you? Come on, say it!

Viewpoint wrote: the lawyer has been harassing English residents in Karmi for some time now


I don't know what this harassment was exactly, but if I was a lwayer I would give everyone of those a REAL harassment at EU Courts, a harassment that would take off their sleep for ever, not just for a couple of hours until the pseudo police shows around.And I would me more clever paying someone in the occupied areas do the "dirty" work for me rather than do it myself.
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