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[halil]

The Greek Cypriot independent presidential candidate Kostas Themistokleus and President Mehmet Ali Talat met yesterday.

Kostas Themistokleus said despite his people’s rejection of the Annan Plan in the 2004 referenda, the UN-sponsored plan should still be taken up as a basis for negotiations once necessary changes have been made on it.
Both peoples on the island are aware of the need to establish a bi-communal federation on the island. The two sides must come together to discuss the core issues of the Cyprus problem, otherwise the problem will remain unsolved .

[raymanuva]

20% of population cannot dictate the faith of other 80%
Sick and tired of "negotiations"... frigging theater

[Bananiot]

Either we come to an agreement which will be based on the Annan Plan (with some changes) or Cyprus will be partitioned. There is no other way about it. Costas Themistocleous is quite right. We have no other options in front of us. If the Greek Cypriot side does not like the philosophy of the Annan Plan then we would have to accept partioned and whatever it entails. In fact many Greek Cypriots, for various reasons, do prefer partition, after Turkey agrees to return a certain amount of land. The number of Greek Cypriots that subscribes to this thesis has increased hugely after Papadopoulos became President back in 2003. Of course, realisticly speaking, partition will bring only misery to Cyprus where Turkey will be the absolute master in the north and an equal partner in the south where many Turkish Cypriots will flock in order to claim what is rightfully their own.

[Viewpoint]

Why dont we all agree to a time frame of say 2 years to force both sides into finding a deal and settling this thing forever. If GCs and TCs do not find a formula then the TCs hand back 12%-19% of the land and the TRNC is recognized. Would the GCs agree to this?

[halil]

Either we come to an agreement which will be based on the Annan Plan (with some changes) or Cyprus will be partitioned. There is no other way about it. Costas Themistocleous is quite right. We have no other options in front of us. If the Greek Cypriot side does not like the philosophy of the Annan Plan then we would have to accept partioned and whatever it entails. In fact many Greek Cypriots, for various reasons, do prefer partition, after Turkey agrees to return a certain amount of land. The number of Greek Cypriots that subscribes to this thesis has increased hugely after Papadopoulos became President back in 2003. Of course, realisticly speaking, partition will bring only misery to Cyprus where Turkey will be the absolute master in the north and an equal partner in the south where many Turkish Cypriots will flock in order to claim what is rightfully their own.

Hi Bananiot,
i agree with your comments.

What about this argument ?
A Greek Cypriot man agreed with a Turkish Cypriot to exchange their properties .Greek Cypriot man also getting some money as well.ROC spoke man said even ECHR decide they can do it . ROC will reject .
Your comments ?

[Bananiot]

I believe time limits are very important but yet who am I and how much does my opinion count? Papadopoulos is dead against time limits (and arbitration) because he probably wishes for the problem to remain in time, hoping that in the future the conditions may be better and thus achieve a more acceptable solution to the Greek Cypriots.

[Bananiot]

Halil, these are crucial times for the Greek Cypriot policy on the property issue. I heard today that another Greek Cypriot, from Famagusta, has applied for a friendly arrangement (land-swap deal) of his issue with a Turkish Cypriot from Kantou village. If the ECHR accepts the deal and legalises it then these will be serious bad news for Papadopoulos.

[halil]

I believe time limits are very important but yet who am I and how much does my opinion count? Papadopoulos is dead against time limits (and arbitration) because he probably wishes for the problem to remain in time, hoping that in the future the conditions may be better and thus achieve a more acceptable solution to the Greek Cypriots.

İNŞALLAH


[color=red]and no more mines.[/color]

[Viewpoint]

Halil, these are crucial times for the Greek Cypriot policy on the property issue. I heard today that another Greek Cypriot, from Famagusta, has applied for a friendly arrangement of his issue with a Turkish Cypriot from Kantou village.

I hope these exchanges increase and some these refugees at least get something for what they have lost.

[Get Real!]

Of course, realisticly speaking, partition will bring only misery to Cyprus where Turkey will be the absolute master in the north and an equal partner in the south where many Turkish Cypriots will flock in order to claim what is rightfully their own.

You have correctly predicted that partition would lead to Turkey taking control of the north and ultimately annexing it so it is pointless. A federation on the other hand whereby the TC community is given undemocratic leverage akin to the 1960s agreements is out of the question in this day and age, and finally a federation whereby the TC community is only given the democratic 18% in all that it deserves is not worth bothering with so what does that leave us with? Assimilation! The only way forward...