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[Kikapu]

Sorry if you cannot accept reality my Greek friend. Resistance is futile!

I see you have met Kikapopoulos the gavour!

Gavur is very bad. We call them 'gavurcuklar' in Cyprus. This is a better joking sort of way to say it.

Does anybody wanna tell him?....No? Ok I'll do it Kikapu is TC my friend.

DT,

You must have knocked poor "Rambo" on to the floor with a sudden shock of telling him who I am, because he has not reemerged.

[humanist]

VP I'll exchange your land in Limasol with the property in Xeros. It's about time I became rich. Ohhh hang, on you little thrief you nearly had me. I thought you don't own any land in the south because you exchanged for some refugee,s property in the north you probably have some trnc titles for it also.

[Viewpoint]

VP I'll exchange your land in Limasol with the property in Xeros. It's about time I became rich. Ohhh hang, on you little thrief you nearly had me. I thought you don't own any land in the south because you exchanged for some refugee,s property in the north you probably have some trnc titles for it also.

Where the hell is Xeros? does it have a sea view? I didnt say such a thing my house is built on Turkish title deeds but like many TCs we as a family also have land/property in the south that we have not exchanged for naything in the north but could exchange with a GC if the ECHR rubbers stamps the property commission here in the TRNC.

[Kifeas]

Either we come to an agreement which will be based on the Annan Plan (with some changes) or Cyprus will be partitioned. There is no other way about it. Costas Themistocleous is quite right. We have no other options in front of us. If the Greek Cypriot side does not like the philosophy of the Annan Plan then we would have to accept partioned and whatever it entails. In fact many Greek Cypriots, for various reasons, do prefer partition, after Turkey agrees to return a certain amount of land. The number of Greek Cypriots that subscribes to this thesis has increased hugely after Papadopoulos became President back in 2003. Of course, realisticly speaking, partition will bring only misery to Cyprus where Turkey will be the absolute master in the north and an equal partner in the south where many Turkish Cypriots will flock in order to claim what is rightfully their own.

Why do I think you make empty rhetoric statements?

You say we must come to an agreement which will be based on the Annan Plan, with some changes, but you never mention which are these changes that need to be made! Name just 3 changes, the most crucial ones in your opinion, and then we see what you are really up to!

You say that the GC community should agree to the philosophy of the Annan plan! Which Annan plan's philosophy should we agree to? The 1-3 versions, or the 4 & 5 ones?

[Kifeas]

Either we come to an agreement which will be based on the Annan Plan (with some changes) or Cyprus will be partitioned. There is no other way about it. Costas Themistocleous is quite right. We have no other options in front of us. If the Greek Cypriot side does not like the philosophy of the Annan Plan then we would have to accept partioned and whatever it entails. In fact many Greek Cypriots, for various reasons, do prefer partition, after Turkey agrees to return a certain amount of land. The number of Greek Cypriots that subscribes to this thesis has increased hugely after Papadopoulos became President back in 2003. Of course, realisticly speaking, partition will bring only misery to Cyprus where Turkey will be the absolute master in the north and an equal partner in the south where many Turkish Cypriots will flock in order to claim what is rightfully their own.

Hi Bananiot,
i agree with your comments.

What do you agree with, Halil? Do you know?

How can you say that you agree with someone's "comments," when you do not even know or are sure of what exactly he is talking about -hence my post above? Or was it an attempt to scratch his back?

[Bananiot]

I have met with Halil on a number of occasions, face to face, he knows exactly what I mean. Looking for the changes to the Annan Plan, then Kifeas? I refer you to AKEL and Christofias who listed them the day after the referendum. I have already said that I agree with these changes proposed by Christofias. You can search and find them, you are more than capable of doing this.

Makrides was very revealing in a newspaper interview today. He said that the Greek Cypriot people did not vote on the Annan Plan but on a twisted plan presented by Papadopoulos.

[Kikapu]

Makrides was very revealing in a newspaper interview today. He said that the Greek Cypriot people did not vote on the Annan Plan but on a twisted plan presented by Papadopoulos.

Hello Bananiot,

It's funny how each side saw the Annan Plan differently.!!

For example, my cousin's husband living in the "TRNC" told me directly into my face in Cyprus this year, that the TC's voted for the AP and not for Peace.

Reach your own conclusions Bananiot on the "husband's" his statement.

[Kifeas]

I have met with Halil on a number of occasions, face to face, he knows exactly what I mean. Looking for the changes to the Annan Plan, then Kifeas? I refer you to AKEL and Christofias who listed them the day after the referendum. I have already said that I agree with these changes proposed by Christofias. You can search and find them, you are more than capable of doing this.

Makrides was very revealing in a newspaper interview today. He said that the Greek Cypriot people did not vote on the Annan Plan but on a twisted plan presented by Papadopoulos.

No Bananiot, unfortunately for you, neither Akel listed any proposed changes after the referendum, nor you know what this changes are; for you would have listed them here if you did -since anyway they are "some few" such ones according to Christofias’ rhetoric of the time! You neither know them, nor you know what you are talking about, nor does Halil!

Regardless of the fact that you tried to avoid touching my post and the questions I raised, I must tell you that if this is going to be the policy of Akel visa vie the solution of the Cyprus problem, i.e. to bring back the Annan plan with "some, few and small changes," I see Christofias coming 3rd -just right above Themistokleous!

Besides the fact that the Annan plan is already dead by default, and this not because of our fault but because of the attitude of the Anglo-Americans and their satellites who rushed to brand and advertise it as a "balanced" one; we now have a new basis on which the solution will have to be worked out, the "8th of July" agreement, which does not even make a commemorating remark on the Annan plan!

Those that forced Papadopoulos’ hand in killing the Annan plan, as a basis for a solution, are those mentioned above, for their ridiculous insistence that if any one of the two sides wishes to initiate any (whatever) changes to it, there must be a “trade off” to the other side, so that the “balance” will be “maintained!” I say rubbish, for after they have given almost everything to the Turkish /TC side, there is nothing left for us to trade at the negotiating table; for no one wants to be in a situation in which to have to ask to be given back a little bit more of his already mutilated legs, in exchange of allowing some more to be cut from his equally mutilated arms!

[humanist]

Ray

20% of population cannot dictate the faith of other 80%
Sick and tired of "negotiations"... frigging theater

Ray, am with you buddy. How about you write a letter to Gordon Brown if you are Bristish condeming the action of the Blair family and asking him for a fair consideration based on a democratic model such as the UK.

cheers

[Viewpoint]

humanist where is xeros?