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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:43 pm

halil wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Either we come to an agreement which will be based on the Annan Plan (with some changes) or Cyprus will be partitioned. There is no other way about it. Costas Themistocleous is quite right. We have no other options in front of us. If the Greek Cypriot side does not like the philosophy of the Annan Plan then we would have to accept partioned and whatever it entails. In fact many Greek Cypriots, for various reasons, do prefer partition, after Turkey agrees to return a certain amount of land. The number of Greek Cypriots that subscribes to this thesis has increased hugely after Papadopoulos became President back in 2003. Of course, realisticly speaking, partition will bring only misery to Cyprus where Turkey will be the absolute master in the north and an equal partner in the south where many Turkish Cypriots will flock in order to claim what is rightfully their own.


Hi Bananiot,
i agree with your comments.

What about this argument ?
A Greek Cypriot man agreed with a Turkish Cypriot to exchange their properties .Greek Cypriot man also getting some money as well.ROC spoke man said even ECHR decide they can do it . ROC will reject .
Your comments ?

So what happens when you run out of TC men to exchange properties with and there's another 150,000 refugees waiting for theirs?
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Postby halil » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:44 pm

Bananiot wrote:Halil, these are crucial times for the Greek Cypriot policy on the property issue. I heard today that another Greek Cypriot, from Famagusta, has applied for a friendly arrangement (land-swap deal) of his issue with a Turkish Cypriot from Kantou village. If the ECHR accepts the deal and legalises it then these will be serious bad news for Papadopoulos.


Few days ago i was waiting someone at leadra check point . i sat down to have a cup of coffee .There was a GC man and his daughter .They were waiting a TC lawer to come and get them to land exchange office . After a while solicitor and TC man came and they gone . U are right they will not wait Papadopoulos to make up his mind .
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:47 pm

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Bananiot wrote:Halil, these are crucial times for the Greek Cypriot policy on the property issue. I heard today that another Greek Cypriot, from Famagusta, has applied for a friendly arrangement of his issue with a Turkish Cypriot from Kantou village.


I hope these exchanges increase and some these refugees at least get something for what they have lost.


I don't think they lost anything. It is more like a long investment plan that will earn big returns in the future, for both the TC's and the GC's.

The losers will be the ones who bought "hot property". :lol: :lol:
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Postby halil » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:52 pm

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Either we come to an agreement which will be based on the Annan Plan (with some changes) or Cyprus will be partitioned. There is no other way about it. Costas Themistocleous is quite right. We have no other options in front of us. If the Greek Cypriot side does not like the philosophy of the Annan Plan then we would have to accept partioned and whatever it entails. In fact many Greek Cypriots, for various reasons, do prefer partition, after Turkey agrees to return a certain amount of land. The number of Greek Cypriots that subscribes to this thesis has increased hugely after Papadopoulos became President back in 2003. Of course, realisticly speaking, partition will bring only misery to Cyprus where Turkey will be the absolute master in the north and an equal partner in the south where many Turkish Cypriots will flock in order to claim what is rightfully their own.


Hi Bananiot,
i agree with your comments.

What about this argument ?
A Greek Cypriot man agreed with a Turkish Cypriot to exchange their properties .Greek Cypriot man also getting some money as well.ROC spoke man said even ECHR decide they can do it . ROC will reject .
Your comments ?


So what happens when you run out of TC men to exchange properties with and there's another 150,000 refugees waiting for theirs?


we will see it.
at the end everybody will get their share or their moneys. This is the result of thePapadopoulos wrong political way .

İn the democracies there is a always ways to find your ways.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:56 pm

halil wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Either we come to an agreement which will be based on the Annan Plan (with some changes) or Cyprus will be partitioned. There is no other way about it. Costas Themistocleous is quite right. We have no other options in front of us. If the Greek Cypriot side does not like the philosophy of the Annan Plan then we would have to accept partioned and whatever it entails. In fact many Greek Cypriots, for various reasons, do prefer partition, after Turkey agrees to return a certain amount of land. The number of Greek Cypriots that subscribes to this thesis has increased hugely after Papadopoulos became President back in 2003. Of course, realisticly speaking, partition will bring only misery to Cyprus where Turkey will be the absolute master in the north and an equal partner in the south where many Turkish Cypriots will flock in order to claim what is rightfully their own.


Hi Bananiot,
i agree with your comments.

What about this argument ?
A Greek Cypriot man agreed with a Turkish Cypriot to exchange their properties .Greek Cypriot man also getting some money as well.ROC spoke man said even ECHR decide they can do it . ROC will reject .
Your comments ?


So what happens when you run out of TC men to exchange properties with and there's another 150,000 refugees waiting for theirs?


we will see it.
at the end everybody will get their share or their moneys. This is the result of thePapadopoulos wrong political way .

İn the democracies there is a always ways to find your ways.

:roll: This has nothing to do with TP! If there was around 65,000 TC refugees and around 200,000 GC refugees how on earth is this exchange plan going to work?

Don't you think it's high time we all stopped wasting time with schemes that are obviously fallacious?
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Postby halil » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:56 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Halil, these are crucial times for the Greek Cypriot policy on the property issue. I heard today that another Greek Cypriot, from Famagusta, has applied for a friendly arrangement of his issue with a Turkish Cypriot from Kantou village.


I hope these exchanges increase and some these refugees at least get something for what they have lost.


I don't think they lost anything. It is more like a long investment plan that will earn big returns in the future, for both the TC's and the GC's.

The losers will be the ones who bought "hot property". :lol: :lol: They can find solution for it as well Kikapu. İf they want to find solution
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Postby halil » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:04 pm

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Either we come to an agreement which will be based on the Annan Plan (with some changes) or Cyprus will be partitioned. There is no other way about it. Costas Themistocleous is quite right. We have no other options in front of us. If the Greek Cypriot side does not like the philosophy of the Annan Plan then we would have to accept partioned and whatever it entails. In fact many Greek Cypriots, for various reasons, do prefer partition, after Turkey agrees to return a certain amount of land. The number of Greek Cypriots that subscribes to this thesis has increased hugely after Papadopoulos became President back in 2003. Of course, realisticly speaking, partition will bring only misery to Cyprus where Turkey will be the absolute master in the north and an equal partner in the south where many Turkish Cypriots will flock in order to claim what is rightfully their own.


Hi Bananiot,
i agree with your comments.

What about this argument ?
A Greek Cypriot man agreed with a Turkish Cypriot to exchange their properties .Greek Cypriot man also getting some money as well.ROC spoke man said even ECHR decide they can do it . ROC will reject .
Your comments ?


So what happens when you run out of TC men to exchange properties with and there's another 150,000 refugees waiting for theirs?


we will see it.
at the end everybody will get their share or their moneys. This is the result of thePapadopoulos wrong political way .

İn the democracies there is a always ways to find your ways.

:roll: This has nothing to do with TP! If there was around 65,000 TC refugees and around 200,000 GC refugees how on earth is this exchange plan going to work?

Don't you think it's high time we all stopped wasting time with schemes that are obviously fallacious?[/quote]

İt is always possible to find solutions.
i am not waisting my time mate . time is running !
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Postby KibrisliTurk » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:05 pm

raymanuva wrote:20% of population cannot dictate the faith of other 80%
Sick and tired of "negotiations"... frigging theater


We are not the same population, we live in different states. They are Greeks we are Turks. The last 40 years cannot be undone. Get over it, things have changed and they will never be the same ever again.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:09 pm

KibrisliTurk wrote:
raymanuva wrote:20% of population cannot dictate the faith of other 80%
Sick and tired of "negotiations"... frigging theater


We are not the same population, we live in different states. They are Greeks we are Turks. The last 40 years cannot be undone. Get over it, things have changed and they will never be the same ever again.


Here comes another "Rambo" who was probably born only 20 years ago and lives in the UK. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby KibrisliTurk » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:19 pm

Sorry if you cannot accept reality my Greek friend. Resistance is futile!
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