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Re: DO YOU LOVE YOURSELF

Postby Eliko » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:02 pm

free_cyprus wrote: you still havent answered the question ???

how does a men become a gentlemen and how does he aquire manners?????



The actions of a gentleman are sometimes quite obvious and sometimes not so.

If you try to evaluate correctness and good manners by observing the behaviour of a gentleman in polite society, you will only see a representation of what polite society expects in various circumstances.

Therefore if you emulate what you have seen, you merely become a carbon copy of the gentleman you have been observing, thus YOUR actions, (and possibly the actions of your chosen mentor) are not necessarily those of a true gentleman.

Good manners are also subject to the above and similarly can expose a certain awkwardness in your attempts at assimilation.

A TRUE gentleman will stand out like a beacon in all situations, not by his (mechanically learned) observance of propriety, rather by his 'natural' demeanour which can be easily recognized at various times.

For instance:-, if you observe a man exiting a swimming pool in order to take a piss, you have seen one, they are a rarity I grant you but they do exist, the same rule may be applied to a man taking a bath, although the possibility of observation is remote in the latter circumstance.

'Enlightenment' is once again the answer to the question posed, it actually is the answer to all questions but is not easily attained.

In my humble opinion. :wink:
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Re: DO YOU LOVE YOURSELF

Postby Filitsa » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:31 pm

Eliko wrote:
free_cyprus wrote: you still havent answered the question ???

how does a men become a gentlemen and how does he aquire manners?????



The actions of a gentleman are sometimes quite obvious and sometimes not so.

If you try to evaluate correctness and good manners by observing the behaviour of a gentleman in polite society, you will only see a representation of what polite society expects in various circumstances.

Therefore if you emulate what you have seen, you merely become a carbon copy of the gentleman you have been observing, thus YOUR actions, (and possibly the actions of your chosen mentor) are not necessarily those of a true gentleman.

Good manners are also subject to the above and similarly can expose a certain awkwardness in your attempts at assimilation.

A TRUE gentleman will stand out like a beacon in all situations, not by his (mechanically learned) observance of propriety, rather by his 'natural' demeanour which can be easily recognized at various times.

For instance:-, if you observe a man exiting a swimming pool in order to take a piss, you have seen one, they are a rarity I grant you but they do exist, the same rule may be applied to a man taking a bath, although the possibility of observation is remote in the latter circumstance.

'Enlightenment' is once again the answer to the question posed, it actually is the answer to all questions but is not easily attained.

In my humble opinion. :wink:


Eliko, do you mean "to void"? Gentlemanly speaking, that is. :wink:
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Re: DO YOU LOVE YOURSELF

Postby free_cyprus » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:44 pm

Eliko wrote:
free_cyprus wrote: you still havent answered the question ???

how does a men become a gentlemen and how does he aquire manners?????



The actions of a gentleman are sometimes quite obvious and sometimes not so.

If you try to evaluate correctness and good manners by observing the behaviour of a gentleman in polite society, you will only see a representation of what polite society expects in various circumstances.

Therefore if you emulate what you have seen, you merely become a carbon copy of the gentleman you have been observing, thus YOUR actions, (and possibly the actions of your chosen mentor) are not necessarily those of a true gentleman.

Good manners are also subject to the above and similarly can expose a certain awkwardness in your attempts at assimilation.

A TRUE gentleman will stand out like a beacon in all situations, not by his (mechanically learned) observance of propriety, rather by his 'natural' demeanour which can be easily recognized at various times.

For instance:-, if you observe a man exiting a swimming pool in order to take a piss, you have seen one, they are a rarity I grant you but they do exist, the same rule may be applied to a man taking a bath, although the possibility of observation is remote in the latter circumstance.

'Enlightenment' is once again the answer to the question posed, it actually is the answer to all questions but is not easily attained.

In my humble opinion. :wink:


the question is not about the actions of a gentlemen or the actions of his manners

the question is

how does a men become a gentlemen and how does he aquire manners?????
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Postby Eliko » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:56 pm

Filitsa, I would prefer the term 'relieve oneself', particularly in the company of ladies (such as yourself) but am perfectly aware of the more raucous expressions often adopted by party-goers, "OOH !, I'm breaking my neck for a piss!", (Man talk of course) never used by a gentleman such as myself. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Eliko » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:57 pm

free_cyprus, please refer to 'Enlightenment' :wink:
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:06 pm

Eliko wrote:Filitsa, I would prefer the term 'relieve oneself', particularly in the company of ladies (such as yourself) but am perfectly aware of the more raucous expressions often adopted by party-goers, "OOH !, I'm breaking my neck for a piss!", (Man talk of course) never used by a gentleman such as myself. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Eliko, do you mean "crass"? :wink:
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Postby free_cyprus » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:07 pm

Eliko wrote:free_cyprus, please refer to 'Enlightenment' :wink:


ok then since you push me into the direction of enlightment i will go there

can you tell me how one becomes enlightened since you seem to know and understand all about it ??????????????
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Postby Eliko » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:21 pm

Filitsa,I chose the word 'Raucous' in connection with party-goers for a particular reason, it would seem that a loud announcement of the intention is a source of amusement among the drinking fraternity. :wink:
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:24 pm

Dear Eliko, I'm not criticizing your word choice by any means. I'm simply implying mine.
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Postby free_cyprus » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:25 pm

Eliko wrote:free_cyprus, please refer to 'Enlightenment' :wink:


let me ask you it in the same way as i asked the original question?????

how does a men become enlightent and how does he aquire enlightment ?????
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