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[DT.]

and a longer historical presence on this island, wHat do you think the island would look like now?

[MR-from-NG]

and a longer historical presence on this island, wHat do you think the island would look like now?

Exactly the same but with less graves

[Get Real!]

and a longer historical presence on this island, wHat do you think the island would look like now?

Exactly the same but with less graves

Good point! There would've been no 74 invasion so that's 6,000 dead less and let's not forget...

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted. Word of the massacre spread, and a few days later Mustafa took Kyrenia without having to fire a shot. Famagusta, however, resisted and put up a heroic defense that lasted from September 1570 until August 1571.

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Good to see you back MR-from-NG...

[free_cyprus]

if you had two cyprus pounds in money one pound in coin form

the other in paper note form in your pocket

can anyone in this forum tell me which one is more valuble

[Nikitas]

Hypothetical question but there are some non hypothetical precedents.

Judging from the way the islands Imvros and Tenedos look today, and the overall scene in souther Turkey, the probability is that Cyprus would be very much like that. The added cost of transport would mean even less industry than southern Turkey and Imvros and Tenedos. The overall picture is of economic stagnancy, and lots of nationalist symbols everywhere. Naturally the non Turkish element has been foced out one way or another despite the fact that there was no sign of hostility in either island.

In contrast, the Turkish communities of the islands of Kos and Rodos, just a few miles south of Imvros and Tenedos are doing fine and they enjoy full equality, property rights, participation in the business life of the islands. I know several Rodian Turks who maintain business on mainland Turkey too but chose to live in Rodos and send their kids to the local schools there.

So there you have the two examples to compare and choose.

[zan]

if you had two cyprus pounds in money one pound in coin form

the other in paper note form in your pocket

can anyone in this forum tell me which one is more valuble

Scrap value of the coin is greater........

[boomerang]

just look at the progoms of 1955 and you will get your answers.

[free_cyprus]

if you had two cyprus pounds in money one pound in coin form

the other in paper note form in your pocket

can anyone in this forum tell me which one is more valuble

Scrap value of the coin is greater........

anything is more valuble when one does not see the valid question put forth shame you missed it zan adn you ended up in the scrap yard

[free_cyprus]

just look at the progoms of 1955 and you will get your answers.

you mean when cypriots betrayed their own people

[Nikitas]

Boomerang,

There were no pogroms on Imvros or Tenedos, nor any type of violent problem. The islands were ceded to Turkey in 1923 and the Turkisch government did something fiendishly clever, it turned them into open prisons and transported there a bunch of convicted felons who were allowed to walk around free. Along with that marvel of legal manouvering they imposed restrictions on property sales and inheritance, amounting to effective confiscation. The local communities were reduced from several thousand to just a few dozen people in one generation. The Imvros and Tenedos bluprint was used in Cyprus to expropriated properties with similar results.

Now of course the lawful owners of properties on Imvros and Tenedros are demanding their rights under EU regulations and things are getting a little complicated for the Turkish authorities since in these islands they do not have the excuse of intercommunal hostilities. There were never any hostilities or other problems.