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[Nikitas]

Halil,

I do not copy paste, because i dont like it and i dont know how to do it.

I have been to northern Greece several times. I saw that the standard of living of the Turkish and other moslem people (there are others like Pomaks and Rom who are moslem) is the same as the Greeks who live in the area. People mix and deal with each other go to the same cafes and restaurants, to each others' shops.

The schools teach in Turkish, with teachers who study in Turkish teachers training colleges. The religious leaders are appointed per the terms of the treaty of 1923. As is the Patriarch who must be a Turkish citizen, born in Turkey and his appointment is formally made by the District Chief of Istanbul. Greek church leaders in Greec are elected by the church council and not by popular vote.

The strongest evidence of the norther Greece's Turkish community's status is its growth, it has almost doubled. By contrtast the Greek community in Istanbul, Imvros and Tenedos has almost disappeared. That about sums it all up.

Nikitas

[Pyrpolizer]

SN (or SouthernNeighbour, or SoutherComfort, or Karavanas, or EPOP or KAMENOS), τσίμπα 25 Σ.ΕΞ. Not that you go out that much anyway...

Oh, oh, so he is the EPOP guy?

And i was thinking where the hell have a met this guy.

[SN]

Mipws pou kai tsa pisoglenti?

hahahhahah

Yaaaaaaaawn....
Can't come up with anything better than stupid sexual "innuendos"?
You really need to go out more

Ok i ll not comment on your sexuality again.But you need to get laid more

[SN]

SN and Alexiss,

English please, so our Turkish Cypriot friends on the forum can appreciate Greek mainland intellectual discourse!

Come on...you can hardly call Alexia a mainland Greek.A Second -third generation Cypriot outcast who tries to feel Greek maybe

[alexISS]

SN and Alexiss,

English please, so our Turkish Cypriot friends on the forum can appreciate Greek mainland intellectual discourse!

Come on...you can hardly call Alexia a mainland Greek.A Second -third generation Cypriot outcast who tries to feel Greek maybe

I am not a Cypriot and my only connection to Cyprus is my Cypriot wife. If, however, I was a Cypriot I would have no problem saying it with pride, which is more than you can say about your Slavofyromian roots which you feel so ashamed for... now drop and give me five, EPOPI!!



EDIT: "Alexia"?!? What are you, five?!? If you HAVE to do this, at least do it with some style...

[phoenix]

. . . . and I was told I was not fit for these (male-only) heavy political discussions

[alexISS]

SN (or SouthernNeighbour, or SoutherComfort, or Karavanas, or EPOP or KAMENOS), τσίμπα 25 Σ.ΕΞ. Not that you go out that much anyway...

Oh, oh, so he is the EPOP guy?

And i was thinking where the hell have a met this guy.

The one and only... EPOPee

[alexISS]

Nikitas and Phoenix:
relax, this guy SN is a special mental case

[SN]

SN and Alexiss,

English please, so our Turkish Cypriot friends on the forum can appreciate Greek mainland intellectual discourse!

Come on...you can hardly call Alexia a mainland Greek.A Second -third generation Cypriot outcast who tries to feel Greek maybe

I am not a Cypriot and my only connection to Cyprus is my Cypriot wife. If, however, I was a Cypriot I would have no problem saying it with pride, which is more than you can say about your Slavofyromian roots which you feel so ashamed for... now drop and give me five, EPOPI!!



EDIT: "Alexia"?!? What are you, five?!? If you HAVE to do this, at least do it with some style...

It must be hard to hide to your wife the fact you are a pisoglentis ha?
Do the fantaria in Chios thought they had power ?What they didnt cry to mum so often that is why you gave S.EX?Lol.
Come and i ll fuck you the EPOP way.Dont worry I ll make you a man Alexia.
What is Slavofyromian?You mean Macedonian,Alexia.I am not ''Slavophone Greek'' xeperase to.Merely fluent in Bulgarian.

[SN]

SN,

You talk about long terms policis of Greece, yet in terms of territorial losses it is Greece that has come off the worse from these "long term policies", having lost territory and/ or influence not only in Asia Minor but also all areas where Hellenism was thriving around the Mediterranean and the Black Sea (non Turkish territories).

Also in terms of minority treatment, after the nonsense of the cold war years, the minorities in Greece have an infinitely better treatment than the minorities that were trapped in the north of Cyprus. Namely the Gypsies, the Cypriots of Karpasia and the few Maronites. One must ponder whether the way of life, the standrd of living and the enjoyment of individual liberties of Turks on Rodos and Kos is better or worse than the corresponding standards of Turkish Cypriots in the north of Cyprus. In my view the Turks of these two islands are better off.

Now as to the "curse of the Greek Cypriots on Cyprus". How are the indigenous people a curse on the later arrivals? I can trace my family roots in Cyprus to several centuries before the arrival of the Turks. How is that a curse for Turkish Cypriots? It is a mysterious comment you made there.

Can you point to a single statement made by any Greek politician of any party made since 1990 that shows any kind of attachment to Enosis sentiment or even a desire to take a dominant position in Cyprus? The picture I have of Greece is that it is glad to be rid of the Cyprus issue relying on the idea that Cyprus decides and Greece merely supports. As for the military side of things, can you point to even one instance when the Greek Navy or Air Force have challenged Turkish superiority in the space between Crete and Cyprus?

In your post SN I detect one of those late blooming Greek "democrats" who are ready to condemn the Junta but forget that not one single state operative resisted the coup of 1967. In Cyprus the police and civilians took up arms and resisted the coup of 1974 and had the invasion not happened it was a matter of time before the coup would have been defeated. And that resistance to the coup and its deeper meaning is the guarantee to Turkish Cypriots that they will not suffer the fate of the Turkish population of Crete. I think Cypriots here will know what I mean even if you dont catch my drift.

Greece in teritoreal terms has been an absolute winner.From its foundation the newly Greek state tripled in size in the course of 100 years.With the exception of the losses in Asia Minor Areas which were under Greece's sovereignity for 3 years no major land losses did we have.
1832 Pagasitikos Ambarkikos
1881 annexation of Thessaly
1913 annexation of Macedonia,Thrace,union with Crete
1947 union with the Dodekanese
and almost Cyprus ,but thank god Turkey invaded(rightfully so due to the bullshit thinking and acting of the Greek side,i would also do the same).

In this context if the GC keep on being the majority it is probable that in the far future Cyprus will end up like Crete.But that is merely an opinion and no one of us is gonna be alive to witness it.
The Greek MegaloIdeatismos had many victims.Primararly the Greeks themselves.Specially about the GC i consider you a persistent and dangerous group of people that shall never allow equality with the TC.Sometimes i feel for you guys,but that depends on my mood.

Also i didnt say that anyone from GC side support union.It is outdated.I merely stressed how cunning their politics is.

In your post SN I detect one of those late blooming Greek "democrats" who are ready to condemn the Junta but forget that not one single state operative resisted the coup of 1967.

My arrogance towards Greece is irrelevant.A fact though.