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[free_cyprus]

Come on, thats no answer!!! I want to understand what it is tthat attracts you to this line of thinking and you are being silly????

theres only one thing that atracts me to this kind of thinking and its simply this i think independently

But you are against anyone who thinks independently and you swear at them.

,i dont let you or anyone else make up my mind for me i come to my own conclusions ,

But you are against anyone who don't let anyone else make up their mind for them and come to their own conclusions and you swear at them.

thats why i try not to get to involved with slagging matching in here wehre people are s coring points regadign who is right and who is wrong in here who done the worse things the sooc alled greeks or so called turks of cyprus the truth of the matter is there is one people of cyprus no two as you and most of these people in this forum claim. just becouse we speak two difrent languages you lot make it out as if thats what we are ..................

But you are against anyone who thinks independently, don't let anyone else make up their mind for them and come to their own conclusions and you swear at them.

well my answer to anyone who thinks like that is feck that for a laugh

Now here's a man with a lot of patience and educated enough to be understanding.

its a joke and most threads in here is a joke peeople of cyprus are a fraid to expres themselves they are to busy arguing and they are a rguin with their own people thats what i cant understand

I am not afraid to express myself and those whom I argue with are not my own people, we just happen to be sharing the same island.

You are doing it all the time but even so you don't understand what hypocrisy means either.

i can also tell you eric dayi to go feck yourself, hypocrisy is arsesses liek you who calim to be turkish cypritos and others like you who think they are greek cypriots,
you say you share the island with those peopel who are not your own people wawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww now you have really enlightened me and inspired me and you have certainly inflamed my mind with that statement
please eric dayi will you educate me please i have been looking for a teacher like you to teach me all my life

me and you we are diffrent eric dayi take it from me, i have seen and spoken to somany people like you in my line of work not only your kind that is trukish cypriot but many like you that are greek cypriots , and i tell them openly they are idiots, and you are no exception right now your thinking is blured and your vision is lacking and your imagination is not developed enough,

like i said me and ou re definatly different.....................i have never claimed to abe anything in this form but myself

what you fail to see in the bigger picture eric dayi is this ishare information good information inspiring information towards all my people of cyprus regardelss if they speak turkish or greek

thats why i aske questions like what is real education, thats why i have a thread called i love you , and many many more that questions and challanges ones thinking and why do i do this becouse i love my people of cyprus my people not greeks or turks my cypriot people who are idiots in most cases wehn it comes to their thinking but never th eless dont confuse being idiots and my love for them they are still my people

but your turkish what can i say you are what you believe you are

I get it now, everyone is an idiot except you because you are the ONLY ONE who is educated, has reaches in life and is capable of loving and the rest of us who want to think independently, know themselves, not let others influence them are "idiots" because we do not let someone like you who is educated and knows himself and is capable of loving not do our thinking for us, not let you influence us or force your will upon us are "idiots" because a person like is you who is trying to teach us to think independently, know ourselves, and not let others influence us is not capable of teaching us to think..................................................................................................................................

and just because we agree with you and want to think independently, know ourselves and do not let you influence us, you swear at us????????

You are a teacher who makes an ass of himself because he fails to see his "students" have learned their lessons.

It's a bloody good job we didn't have any teachers like you in school or we would not have passed a single test.

i dont want you to agree with me eric dayi i want you to come to your own conclusions what the truth is

im not here to prove anything in fact im bored of arguing with people who are forever making accusations about me

all i can say to you and everyone else in thsi forum is simply this im self confident im super confident in myself and my ability to teach those who seek alternative education of the mind , in another words i teach positive to those who want to think and act in positive ways,

can i ask you and the whole of the forum here and now what problem have you lot solved by arguin about the past in here can anyone show me one shred of evidance that a solution was found to a problem regarding cyprus......................none

who benfits in here when you lot post disgusting things of the past in here tragic as they were tragic as they happened and tragic as they were mostly comited by our own people the cypriots. what does it serve can you answer me ............................for my point it only serves to ignite more hate more division more problems

is this a humane way to behave towards each other the naswer is no

ohhhh i swear alright and i do use the feck word and everyone knows this in the forum but thats ok i rather use the feck word a million time then to post here something ugly and billuilttling to the human spirit somethign that happened in the pass serves no purpose for the future except the purpose that says this must never happen agpeople do not understand what education is and the reason i s simple if i said most people of cyprus are idiots people think this is an attack on the cypriot people the truth of the matter is it is their thinkign i attack their lack of vision i attack cyprus people are one of the warmest friendliest people in the world but when it comes to poletics they are the guliest people in the world and im sayign this as a cypriot never confuse one subject with another

[free_cyprus]

Come on, thats no answer!!! I want to understand what it is tthat attracts you to this line of thinking and you are being silly????[/quot

theres only one thing that atracts me to this kind of thinking and its simply this i think independently ,i dont let you or anyone else make up my mind for me i come to my own conclusions , thats why i try not to get to involved with slagging matching in here wehre people are s coring points regadign who is right and who is wrong in here who done the worse things the sooc alled greeks or so called turks of cyprus the truth of the matter is there is one people of cyprus no two as you and most of these people in this forum claim. just becouse we speak two difrent languages you lot make it out as if thats what we are ..................well my answer to anyone who thinks like that is feck that for a laugh

its a joke and most threads in here is a joke peeople of cyprus are a fraid to expres themselves they are to busy arguing and they are a rguin with their own people thats what i cant understand

Then I am already there!!! I do not let anyone tell me how to think either and have free thinking.......................................erm! There is one problem though withis type of thinking and any type of thinking though......To come to a conclusion you have to have ALL the facts. Can you say that you have ALL the facts and are making a decision from a point of no doubt what so ever? No? This is where everyone on this forum comes in. Every view, every remark, every fact and even every lie helps you to a better understanding of what is going on. How can you do without that. If someone tells you that something is wrong in something that you believed in for years, do you just dismiss him and carry on believing what you want???You are assuming the position of a god and even a god cannot know everything at all times. It is not possible. What, it seems to me, you are doing is not allowing others to think freely...By that I mean that thinking does not have to have a pattern and free thinking must have the freedom to think in an infinite amount of ways. That is true free thinking and that of a a collective one, which of course is what humans are...A giant computer with many free thinking parts that can communicate and come to a collective conclusion.........The problem in Cyprus is that we are running on two different programs and one is being constantly modified....

So it seems to me that you are not fully using the power of collective free thinking and you are trying to do it all yourself. We all know the difference between the power of a small processor and these new quad processors that are coming out soon........Think of millions of them allowed to link up but with the power of free thinking and not just one programme fits all....

i do not confuse anything zan and there is no two difrent thinking in cyprus there is one thinking in cyprus the thinking that devides and rules the uneducated people and thats 99% of cypriots

what is most peaopl in thif forum arguign about pass events who is right and who is wrong who done waht and where and how, and yet its all wrong
becouse cypriots gave concent to be recruited and used by ankara and thens against our own people in the name of eoka and tmt and who are these people they are the very same people that are in goverments post all over cyprus running cyprus still as agents to greece and turkey

and you are telling me about facts what is wrong with you people wheres your brains,

An abandoned child will always want to know where it came from and who his real parents are. It is human nature to want to know and we want to know and correct the inaccuracies and damned lies. I don't want to know where I am going until I have fulfilled the journey of where I have been. If you do not know where you have been then you cannot use that knowledge to keep you safe in future travels.

to put it in a nut shell for you and everyone else in this form since you concider cypriot people to be abondoned people our little island is built upon over three thousand years of invasion and rule soo dont worry my friend your not alone when you want to find out where you are from or who you are we are all in the same boat we are cypriots

we are mummies baby daddys maybe

oppsss i forgot we are turkish and greek cypriots the only place in the world where an island has been invaded ruled by no less then 17 empires of history has emerged as pure greeks and turks....................its amazing acientist will be flocking to cyprus to se how this modern day miracle has happened

and you call yourself a free thinker you call yourself a independent thinker

[repulsewarrior]

I don't think that our little problem with language is important in the broader sense.

Thank goodness that Greek is no longer the lingua franca of the known world, because that would make this Problem far too complex, would we still be using English to remove this bias?

Cyprus is an island. The people who live on it are its dwellers. We are the stewards of a very precious part of the Occidental world's patrimony. And beyond, Mankind's to the Neolithic Age.

If anything this is far more important for our children, to focus the facts, for them to have perspectives from this greater whole, rather than the misery which threatens such wealth.

[zan]

Come on, thats no answer!!! I want to understand what it is tthat attracts you to this line of thinking and you are being silly????[/quot

theres only one thing that atracts me to this kind of thinking and its simply this i think independently ,i dont let you or anyone else make up my mind for me i come to my own conclusions , thats why i try not to get to involved with slagging matching in here wehre people are s coring points regadign who is right and who is wrong in here who done the worse things the sooc alled greeks or so called turks of cyprus the truth of the matter is there is one people of cyprus no two as you and most of these people in this forum claim. just becouse we speak two difrent languages you lot make it out as if thats what we are ..................well my answer to anyone who thinks like that is feck that for a laugh

its a joke and most threads in here is a joke peeople of cyprus are a fraid to expres themselves they are to busy arguing and they are a rguin with their own people thats what i cant understand

Then I am already there!!! I do not let anyone tell me how to think either and have free thinking.......................................erm! There is one problem though withis type of thinking and any type of thinking though......To come to a conclusion you have to have ALL the facts. Can you say that you have ALL the facts and are making a decision from a point of no doubt what so ever? No? This is where everyone on this forum comes in. Every view, every remark, every fact and even every lie helps you to a better understanding of what is going on. How can you do without that. If someone tells you that something is wrong in something that you believed in for years, do you just dismiss him and carry on believing what you want???You are assuming the position of a god and even a god cannot know everything at all times. It is not possible. What, it seems to me, you are doing is not allowing others to think freely...By that I mean that thinking does not have to have a pattern and free thinking must have the freedom to think in an infinite amount of ways. That is true free thinking and that of a a collective one, which of course is what humans are...A giant computer with many free thinking parts that can communicate and come to a collective conclusion.........The problem in Cyprus is that we are running on two different programs and one is being constantly modified....

So it seems to me that you are not fully using the power of collective free thinking and you are trying to do it all yourself. We all know the difference between the power of a small processor and these new quad processors that are coming out soon........Think of millions of them allowed to link up but with the power of free thinking and not just one programme fits all....

i do not confuse anything zan and there is no two difrent thinking in cyprus there is one thinking in cyprus the thinking that devides and rules the uneducated people and thats 99% of cypriots

what is most peaopl in thif forum arguign about pass events who is right and who is wrong who done waht and where and how, and yet its all wrong
becouse cypriots gave concent to be recruited and used by ankara and thens against our own people in the name of eoka and tmt and who are these people they are the very same people that are in goverments post all over cyprus running cyprus still as agents to greece and turkey

and you are telling me about facts what is wrong with you people wheres your brains,

An abandoned child will always want to know where it came from and who his real parents are. It is human nature to want to know and we want to know and correct the inaccuracies and damned lies. I don't want to know where I am going until I have fulfilled the journey of where I have been. If you do not know where you have been then you cannot use that knowledge to keep you safe in future travels.

to put it in a nut shell for you and everyone else in this form since you concider cypriot people to be abondoned people our little island is built upon over three thousand years of invasion and rule soo dont worry my friend your not alone when you want to find out where you are from or who you are we are all in the same boat we are cypriots

we are mummies baby daddys maybe

oppsss i forgot we are turkish and greek cypriots the only place in the world where an island has been invaded ruled by no less then 17 empires of history has emerged as pure greeks and turks....................its amazing acientist will be flocking to cyprus to se how this modern day miracle has happened

and you call yourself a free thinker you call yourself a independent thinker

I don't really understand what you want...Of course the Cypriots living in peace is something that everyone wants but there is no easy way to achieve that. You want me to stop being who I am and become this fictitious Cypriot that I used to feel but with an uneasiness because of the real situation. We have always been Greek/Turkish Cypriots and the one chance we had at finally becoming or moving towards a true Cypriot nation was wrecked by Makarios and I was driven away from my island to run for my life. With all the political wranglings going on and the threat to my very identity, you want me to just turn around and declare myself just Cypriot and cure the whole thing in one go? There are many reasons as to why I can't do that and are not being allowed to do that and those reasons are all over this forum.
I know you are screaming for a cure and so am I but as I said to you before...I have thought it through and have made up my mind how to play this based on my life experiences. We have received nothing but heartache from the "RoC" all our lives and we asked and expected fairness and respect....We have had neither and are now demanding it. Sometimes that is the only way. We will get it....Is that positive enough for you....

[free_cyprus]

I don't think that our little problem with language is important in the broader sense.

Thank goodness that Greek is no longer the lingua franca of the known world, because that would make this Problem far too complex, would we still be using English to remove this bias?

Cyprus is an island. The people who live on it are its dwellers. We are the stewards of a very precious part of the Occidental world's patrimony. And beyond, Mankind's to the Neolithic Age.

If anything this is far more important for our children, to focus the facts, for them to have perspectives from this greater whole, rather than the misery which threatens such wealth.

we have had somany replys regarding cyprus and its problem and here at last we have a decent honest answer, some who can see further then their no someone sho sees the pucture someone who asks valid question and gets valid answers rigarding the bigger picture thank you soooo much for your reply repulsewarrior

[free_cyprus]

Come on, thats no answer!!! I want to understand what it is tthat attracts you to this line of thinking and you are being silly????[/quot

theres only one thing that atracts me to this kind of thinking and its simply this i think independently ,i dont let you or anyone else make up my mind for me i come to my own conclusions , thats why i try not to get to involved with slagging matching in here wehre people are s coring points regadign who is right and who is wrong in here who done the worse things the sooc alled greeks or so called turks of cyprus the truth of the matter is there is one people of cyprus no two as you and most of these people in this forum claim. just becouse we speak two difrent languages you lot make it out as if thats what we are ..................well my answer to anyone who thinks like that is feck that for a laugh

its a joke and most threads in here is a joke peeople of cyprus are a fraid to expres themselves they are to busy arguing and they are a rguin with their own people thats what i cant understand

Then I am already there!!! I do not let anyone tell me how to think either and have free thinking.......................................erm! There is one problem though withis type of thinking and any type of thinking though......To come to a conclusion you have to have ALL the facts. Can you say that you have ALL the facts and are making a decision from a point of no doubt what so ever? No? This is where everyone on this forum comes in. Every view, every remark, every fact and even every lie helps you to a better understanding of what is going on. How can you do without that. If someone tells you that something is wrong in something that you believed in for years, do you just dismiss him and carry on believing what you want???You are assuming the position of a god and even a god cannot know everything at all times. It is not possible. What, it seems to me, you are doing is not allowing others to think freely...By that I mean that thinking does not have to have a pattern and free thinking must have the freedom to think in an infinite amount of ways. That is true free thinking and that of a a collective one, which of course is what humans are...A giant computer with many free thinking parts that can communicate and come to a collective conclusion.........The problem in Cyprus is that we are running on two different programs and one is being constantly modified....

So it seems to me that you are not fully using the power of collective free thinking and you are trying to do it all yourself. We all know the difference between the power of a small processor and these new quad processors that are coming out soon........Think of millions of them allowed to link up but with the power of free thinking and not just one programme fits all....

i do not confuse anything zan and there is no two difrent thinking in cyprus there is one thinking in cyprus the thinking that devides and rules the uneducated people and thats 99% of cypriots

what is most peaopl in thif forum arguign about pass events who is right and who is wrong who done waht and where and how, and yet its all wrong
becouse cypriots gave concent to be recruited and used by ankara and thens against our own people in the name of eoka and tmt and who are these people they are the very same people that are in goverments post all over cyprus running cyprus still as agents to greece and turkey

and you are telling me about facts what is wrong with you people wheres your brains,

An abandoned child will always want to know where it came from and who his real parents are. It is human nature to want to know and we want to know and correct the inaccuracies and damned lies. I don't want to know where I am going until I have fulfilled the journey of where I have been. If you do not know where you have been then you cannot use that knowledge to keep you safe in future travels.

to put it in a nut shell for you and everyone else in this form since you concider cypriot people to be abondoned people our little island is built upon over three thousand years of invasion and rule soo dont worry my friend your not alone when you want to find out where you are from or who you are we are all in the same boat we are cypriots

we are mummies baby daddys maybe

oppsss i forgot we are turkish and greek cypriots the only place in the world where an island has been invaded ruled by no less then 17 empires of history has emerged as pure greeks and turks....................its amazing acientist will be flocking to cyprus to se how this modern day miracle has happened

and you call yourself a free thinker you call yourself a independent thinker

I don't really understand what you want...Of course the Cypriots living in peace is something that everyone wants but there is no easy way to achieve that. You want me to stop being who I am and become this fictitious Cypriot that I used to feel but with an uneasiness because of the real situation. We have always been Greek/Turkish Cypriots and the one chance we had at finally becoming or moving towards a true Cypriot nation was wrecked by Makarios and I was driven away from my island to run for my life. With all the political wranglings going on and the threat to my very identity, you want me to just turn around and declare myself just Cypriot and cure the whole thing in one go? There are many reasons as to why I can't do that and are not being allowed to do that and those reasons are all over this forum.
I know you are screaming for a cure and so am I but as I said to you before...I have thought it through and have made up my mind how to play this based on my life experiences. We have received nothing but heartache from the "RoC" all our lives and we asked and expected fairness and respect....We have had neither and are now demanding it. Sometimes that is the only way. We will get it....Is that positive enough for you....

i agree with you say zan and i understand what you are saying that we all want peace and harmony in cyprus....................i believe in my heart and soul if we asked each indevidual saprately theyw ill say the same thing that they want peace and to live in harmony.

the problem rises with the thinking of men woman and children as you pointed out you cannot change and nore can so many other people of cyprus, the reason why you and most of cypriots cannot change becouse everything around everythng to do with cyprus has been disected to such a point that they do not allow anyone to think they are just cypriots, everything they done everything they are doing and everything they will do is geared up for divide and rule thats why its soo hard to find a solution to cyprus, it comes from constant contenual bombardment of propaganda the demorolises the mind of the people who listen to it.

i love my cyprus.
i love my people of cyprus
they are the warmest and kindess people in the world
and this information comes from many many people who are not cypriots that coem and go to cyprus tell em this from their own mouth

but when it comes to the way cypriots think i call them idiots and many people.

becouse they hand onto something that is not realthe fact that they are turkish and greek cypriots
and it is this very idea that keeps us cypriots apart,

im not saying dont speak turkish or greek
im not saying dont be christian or muslim

what im saying is this given the history of cyprus its laugable that we are greeks and turks, when we have not had independece for over three thousand years,
when we have been invaded and ruled more then 17 times by different empires