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Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:05 pm

zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:There is an old Arab saying that best sums up their behaviour on all fronts:

"The last thing a Turk ever does is stab you in the back".

There's Turks and there are those that call themselves TCs . . . but to me a leopard doesn't change it's spots . . . they are the same people by any name.

Their behaviour in letting down the GCs during the coup and then letting in the Turk's Army and now pulling down Turkey with their selfish needs is all part of the cycle of them stabbing everyone in the back.


And we are to feel shame about that or are you just venting your frustration in not being one of us GR!!!!!!?

It didn't take Zanny too long to get back to his multi-personality accusation tactics! :roll:

Welcome back dear Zanny... always missed! :lol:
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:08 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:There is an old Arab saying that best sums up their behaviour on all fronts:

"The last thing a Turk ever does is stab you in the back".

There's Turks and there are those that call themselves TCs . . . but to me a leopard doesn't change it's spots . . . they are the same people by any name.

Their behaviour in letting down the GCs during the coup and then letting in the Turk's Army and now pulling down Turkey with their selfish needs is all part of the cycle of them stabbing everyone in the back.


And we are to feel shame about that or are you just venting your frustration in not being one of us GR!!!!!!?

It didn't take Zanny too long to get back to his multi-personality accusation tactics! :roll:

Welcome back dear Zanny... always missed! :lol:



You should get a new eye piece for your sniper rifle...... :wink: :lol: :lol: 8)
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:21 pm

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boomerang wrote:bir, i am certain the gcs have done their own share of attrocities, i don't really need to count them. as i haven't counted the tcs attrocities.

but we are not talking attrocities here are we? the question that i am asking is why the tcs didn't fight along the side of the coupists as i consider the coupists to be the anathema to the tcs. as we still are reiminded of the enosis bullshit to this very day.

they opted for ethnic cleansing instead.

why bir? why zan?



Just one more question


Have you ever read and tried to quantify what went on on the island with regards to the Akritas Plan and where we are today with it?????



fuck man are you punch drunk or something?

you think every single gc wanted enosis or endorsed the akritas plan, bexause if every gc was behind the akritas plan or what ever, i don't think there would have been a tcs alive today.

just get it through your head that the majority was against enosis and they fought against it. surely you can see this point coz even blind freddy can.

we are talking now 74 and you are talking 63. during the height of inter communal fighting. come on get it together zan.

i would have thought the tcs ould have come out in droves to avenge the tormentors, rather than opting for ethnic cleansing. especially that peace prevail 6 years prior to the invasion.


I can see that you have not by your response then :roll:


Sorry mate but if you cannot see that the Akritas Plan was not a question of immediate annihilation of the TCs but words like "Communal Fighting" is perfect for it....There was no communal fighting mate because the TCs had no weapons but a few shotguns. Why do you think that it was so important to get arms from Turkey by a single and dangerous boat trip.....?

The communal fighting was so that Makarios could formally ask for UN intervention so that he would automatically become the sole government of the island......It worked only to a point and then we had the farce of &$ where Makarios did it again in a made up conflict with Greece. Ask for intervention by the UN and you automatically become the recognised government of the country.....Luckily Turkey saw through their little plan....Clever man that Ecevit!!!!!!!
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Postby Eric dayi » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:21 pm

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:There is an old Arab saying that best sums up their behaviour on all fronts:

"The last thing a Turk ever does is stab you in the back".

There's Turks and there are those that call themselves TCs . . . but to me a leopard doesn't change it's spots . . . they are the same people by any name.

Their behaviour in letting down the GCs during the coup and then letting in the Turk's Army and now pulling down Turkey with their selfish needs is all part of the cycle of them stabbing everyone in the back.


And we are to feel shame about that or are you just venting your frustration in not being one of us GR!!!!!!?

It didn't take Zanny too long to get back to his multi-personality accusation tactics! :roll:

Welcome back dear Zanny... always missed! :lol:



You should get a new eye piece for your sniper rifle...... :wink: :lol: :lol: 8)




I am sure he's got two zan, one for each eye just to make sure he doesn't miss.
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Postby Eric dayi » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:26 pm

zan wrote:
boomerang wrote:
zan wrote:
boomerang wrote:bir, i am certain the gcs have done their own share of attrocities, i don't really need to count them. as i haven't counted the tcs attrocities.

but we are not talking attrocities here are we? the question that i am asking is why the tcs didn't fight along the side of the coupists as i consider the coupists to be the anathema to the tcs. as we still are reiminded of the enosis bullshit to this very day.

they opted for ethnic cleansing instead.

why bir? why zan?



Just one more question


Have you ever read and tried to quantify what went on on the island with regards to the Akritas Plan and where we are today with it?????



fuck man are you punch drunk or something?

you think every single gc wanted enosis or endorsed the akritas plan, bexause if every gc was behind the akritas plan or what ever, i don't think there would have been a tcs alive today.

just get it through your head that the majority was against enosis and they fought against it. surely you can see this point coz even blind freddy can.

we are talking now 74 and you are talking 63. during the height of inter communal fighting. come on get it together zan.

i would have thought the tcs ould have come out in droves to avenge the tormentors, rather than opting for ethnic cleansing. especially that peace prevail 6 years prior to the invasion.


I can see that you have not by your response then :roll:


Sorry mate but if you cannot see that the Akritas Plan was not a question of immediate annihilation of the TCs but words like "Communal Fighting" is perfect for it....There was no communal fighting mate because the TCs had no weapons but a few shotguns. Why do you think that it was so important to get arms from Turkey by a single and dangerous boat trip.....?

The communal fighting was so that Makarios could formally ask for UN intervention so that he would automatically become the sole government of the island......It worked only to a point and then we had the farce of &$ where Makarios did it again in a made up conflict with Greece. Ask for intervention by the UN and you automatically become the recognised government of the country.....Luckily Turkey saw through their little plan....Clever man that Ecevit!!!!!!!


That's why I can't, for the life of me, understand why the Gcs who "didn't want ENOSIS" thank Ecevit for saving their lives from the murdering ENOSIS seeking terrorist organisation EOKA whom they admit was the cause of the war and subsequent division of Cyprus.
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Postby boomerang » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:33 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:
boomerang wrote:bir, i am certain the gcs have done their own share of attrocities, i don't really need to count them. as i haven't counted the tcs attrocities.

but we are not talking attrocities here are we? the question that i am asking is why the tcs didn't fight along the side of the coupists as i consider the coupists to be the anathema to the tcs. as we still are reiminded of the enosis bullshit to this very day.

they opted for ethnic cleansing instead.

why bir? why zan?



Just one more question


Have you ever read and tried to quantify what went on on the island with regards to the Akritas Plan and where we are today with it?????



fuck man are you punch drunk or something?

you think every single gc wanted enosis or endorsed the akritas plan, bexause if every gc was behind the akritas plan or what ever, i don't think there would have been a tcs alive today.

just get it through your head that the majority was against enosis and they fought against it. surely you can see this point coz even blind freddy can.

we are talking now 74 and you are talking 63. during the height of inter communal fighting. come on get it together zan.

i would have thought the tcs ould have come out in droves to avenge the tormentors, rather than opting for ethnic cleansing. especially that peace prevail 6 years prior to the invasion.


I can see that you have not by your response then :roll:


Sorry mate but if you cannot see that the Akritas Plan was not a question of immediate annihilation of the TCs but words like "Communal Fighting" is perfect for it....There was no communal fighting mate because the TCs had no weapons but a few shotguns. Why do you think that it was so important to get arms from Turkey by a single and dangerous boat trip.....?

The communal fighting was so that Makarios could formally ask for UN intervention so that he would automatically become the sole government of the island......It worked only to a point and then we had the farce of &$ where Makarios did it again in a made up conflict with Greece. Ask for intervention by the UN and you automatically become the recognised government of the country.....Luckily Turkey saw through their little plan....Clever man that Ecevit!!!!!!!


well ecevit wasn't very clever because the RoC did become a member of the EU under his watch bringing turkey to the comedy festival every night of the week. :lol:

Makarios was the president, HEAD OF STATE, at the time and he had every right to call upon the UN. i don't see anything wrong there. I am just wondering if you also read sumblime messages in ice cubes zan.

the communal fighting subsided way before 74 with some normality returning to the island till the coup.

in any case we both surely must agree that the coupists were indeed the tcs worsed nightmare as was the tmt. what I can't figured out why didn't the tcs try and avenge themselves against their enemies rather opting for backstabbing.

you tried to answer but you as i said you only tried.

now and you answer as to why you are now punishing 70 million turks after they took so much care of you? ungratefulness, selfishness? what is it?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:42 pm

boomerang wrote:bir, i am certain the gcs have done their own share of attrocities, i don't really need to count them. as i haven't counted the tcs attrocities.

but we are not talking attrocities here are we? the question that i am asking is why the tcs didn't fight along the side of the coupists as i consider the coupists to be the anathema to the tcs. as we still are reiminded of the enosis bullshit to this very day.

they opted for ethnic cleansing instead.

why bir? why zan?


Sorry,boomers,you got me totally confused...What are you asking here exactly?Are you asking why the TCs did not fight against the people who carried out the coup against Makarios??? Do you know what the situation of the TCs were between 1963-74??? Can you be more specific???You might even get a sensible answer from me,who knows? :wink:
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:45 pm

boomerang wrote:
zan wrote:
boomerang wrote:
zan wrote:
boomerang wrote:bir, i am certain the gcs have done their own share of attrocities, i don't really need to count them. as i haven't counted the tcs attrocities.

but we are not talking attrocities here are we? the question that i am asking is why the tcs didn't fight along the side of the coupists as i consider the coupists to be the anathema to the tcs. as we still are reiminded of the enosis bullshit to this very day.

they opted for ethnic cleansing instead.

why bir? why zan?



Just one more question


Have you ever read and tried to quantify what went on on the island with regards to the Akritas Plan and where we are today with it?????



fuck man are you punch drunk or something?

you think every single gc wanted enosis or endorsed the akritas plan, bexause if every gc was behind the akritas plan or what ever, i don't think there would have been a tcs alive today.

just get it through your head that the majority was against enosis and they fought against it. surely you can see this point coz even blind freddy can.

we are talking now 74 and you are talking 63. during the height of inter communal fighting. come on get it together zan.

i would have thought the tcs ould have come out in droves to avenge the tormentors, rather than opting for ethnic cleansing. especially that peace prevail 6 years prior to the invasion.


I can see that you have not by your response then :roll:


Sorry mate but if you cannot see that the Akritas Plan was not a question of immediate annihilation of the TCs but words like "Communal Fighting" is perfect for it....There was no communal fighting mate because the TCs had no weapons but a few shotguns. Why do you think that it was so important to get arms from Turkey by a single and dangerous boat trip.....?

The communal fighting was so that Makarios could formally ask for UN intervention so that he would automatically become the sole government of the island......It worked only to a point and then we had the farce of &$ where Makarios did it again in a made up conflict with Greece. Ask for intervention by the UN and you automatically become the recognised government of the country.....Luckily Turkey saw through their little plan....Clever man that Ecevit!!!!!!!


well ecevit wasn't very clever because the RoC did become a member of the EU under his watch bringing turkey to the comedy festival every night of the week. :lol:

Makarios was the president, HEAD OF STATE, at the time and he had every right to call upon the UN. i don't see anything wrong there. I am just wondering if you also read sumblime messages in ice cubes zan.

the communal fighting subsided way before 74 with some normality returning to the island till the coup.

in any case we both surely must agree that the coupists were indeed the tcs worsed nightmare as was the tmt. what I can't figured out why didn't the tcs try and avenge themselves against their enemies rather opting for backstabbing.

you tried to answer but you as i said you only tried.

now and you answer as to why you are now punishing 70 million turks after they took so much care of you? ungratefulness, selfishness? what is it?


Don't really understand your line of thinking Boomer?


What Makarios should have done was to stand side by side with, albeit, 30% of the TCs beside him and asking for intervention for the "Communal fighting" but it was more like a civil war because there were no TCs there at his side. The TCs knew what he was up to mate and that is why Dr.Kucuk and Denktas were telling everyone not to retaliate. They did not want to give Makarios what he was after. TPapa must have been frothing at the mouth when it all kicked off but it did not go quite to plan.....Then they took till 1974 to work it out so they could start a coup in which the president flees for his life and then makes a plea for intervention from abroad......Enter stage left... :wink: :lol:


You guys have no idea how close to becoming just Greeks you really were :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


I am sorry mate but the goading of why we are torchering the Turks is not going to work on me for one....I get on perfectly well with my Turkish brothers and they seem protective of me...... 8) 8)
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Postby boomerang » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:58 pm

which part you didn't get zan? point out so i can simplified it for you.


anyway how did you go with your patern. we need to compare notes because since you told me about your idea i came up with my own with a working model already. but like you I am stuck. I need more expert advice
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:05 pm

boomerang wrote:which part you didn't get zan? point out so i can simplified it for you.


anyway how did you go with your patern. we need to compare notes because since you told me about your idea i came up with my own with a working model already. but like you I am stuck. I need more expert advice
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