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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:02 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:I posted here because of the flak I have been subjected to. I am a person who believes that partition is the only realistic answer to the Cyprus Problem, and for that, I am villfied by the majority of you people. Well, so be it. However, I have made it clear to Get Real, and I will make it clear to the rest of you: you furnish me compelling evidence - something that would stand up in a court of law - that would refute what I have read about this issue, and I'll rethink my stance. Logical, not emotive.


You are not alone Kiwi, the majority of Tcs support partition as the only real solution considering that we are unable to work out an alternative, especially after the slap in the face of the referendum.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:I posted here because of the flak I have been subjected to. I am a person who believes that partition is the only realistic answer to the Cyprus Problem, and for that, I am villfied by the majority of you people. Well, so be it. However, I have made it clear to Get Real, and I will make it clear to the rest of you: you furnish me compelling evidence - something that would stand up in a court of law - that would refute what I have read about this issue, and I'll rethink my stance. Logical, not emotive.


You are not alone Kiwi, the majority of Tcs support partition as the only real solution considering that we are unable to work out an alternative, especially after the slap in the face of the referendum.

Unable to work out an undemocratic blackmail seems more appropriate...
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:15 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:I posted here because of the flak I have been subjected to. I am a person who believes that partition is the only realistic answer to the Cyprus Problem, and for that, I am villfied by the majority of you people. Well, so be it. However, I have made it clear to Get Real, and I will make it clear to the rest of you: you furnish me compelling evidence - something that would stand up in a court of law - that would refute what I have read about this issue, and I'll rethink my stance. Logical, not emotive.

As I said to someone else on ATCA...

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Get real, Do you honestly think the dept of lands is an impartial authority? For years the GCs have been providing information to the EU and UN in the name of the TCs. Surely that cant be accurate.


It seems that too many years of living in illegality in the “TRNC” has kept many Turkish Cypriots out of touch with reality. I reiterate that the ONLY authority when it comes to land issues is the Department of Lands and Surveys of the Republic of Cyprus make no mistake. You can read about its history here...

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/dls/dls.nsf/d ... enDocument

Unlike in the recently manufactured “TRNC”, the Department of Lands and Surveys has ORIGINAL records of land ownership dating back to the mid 19th century which anyone can VIEW upon request and can be easily contacted here…

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/dls/dls.nsf/d ... n?OpenForm
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:16 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Expatkiwi wrote:I posted here because of the flak I have been subjected to. I am a person who believes that partition is the only realistic answer to the Cyprus Problem, and for that, I am villfied by the majority of you people. Well, so be it. However, I have made it clear to Get Real, and I will make it clear to the rest of you: you furnish me compelling evidence - something that would stand up in a court of law - that would refute what I have read about this issue, and I'll rethink my stance. Logical, not emotive.


You are not alone Kiwi, the majority of Tcs support partition as the only real solution considering that we are unable to work out an alternative, especially after the slap in the face of the referendum.

Unable to work out an undemocratic blackmail seems more appropriate...


Is that like the economic blackmail vs minority rights you are trying to impose on us??
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:56 pm

kiwi,

Where in California are you.? I know CA quite well. Lets talk about few places there. Perhaps that might help people believe who you are.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:06 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:I posted here because of the flak I have been subjected to. I am a person who believes that partition is the only realistic answer to the Cyprus Problem, and for that, I am villfied by the majority of you people. Well, so be it. However, I have made it clear to Get Real, and I will make it clear to the rest of you: you furnish me compelling evidence - something that would stand up in a court of law - that would refute what I have read about this issue, and I'll rethink my stance. Logical, not emotive.


You are not alone Kiwi, the majority of Tcs support partition as the only real solution considering that we are unable to work out an alternative, especially after the slap in the face of the referendum.

Unable to work out an undemocratic blackmail seems more appropriate...


Is that like the economic blackmail vs minority rights you are trying to impose on us??

The fact that the TCs are a minority community has nothing to do with the RoC and everything to do with your motherland abandoning your forefathers here.

Colonialism failed everywhere in the world and those left behind by the colonialists either assimilate and move on in life or move out altogether and usually back to their motherland. What is happening on Cyprus can only be described as an extraordinary delay due to the close proximity of the colonialists but this story is also coming to a close...

If Turkey joins the West she will have to abide by the laws of the West and that also means relinquishing Cyprus, if on the other hand she opts for the East she will then be subjugated by the West as she will be seen as a direct threat and will thus forcefully relinquish Cyprus.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:10 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:I posted here because of the flak I have been subjected to. I am a person who believes that partition is the only realistic answer to the Cyprus Problem, and for that, I am villfied by the majority of you people. Well, so be it. However, I have made it clear to Get Real, and I will make it clear to the rest of you: you furnish me compelling evidence - something that would stand up in a court of law - that would refute what I have read about this issue, and I'll rethink my stance. Logical, not emotive.


You are not alone Kiwi, the majority of Tcs support partition as the only real solution considering that we are unable to work out an alternative, especially after the slap in the face of the referendum.

Unable to work out an undemocratic blackmail seems more appropriate...


Is that like the economic blackmail vs minority rights you are trying to impose on us??

The fact that the TCs are a minority community has nothing to do with the RoC and everything to do with your motherland abandoning your forefathers here.

Colonialism failed everywhere in the world and those left behind by the colonialists either assimilate and move on in life or move out altogether and usually back to their motherland. What is happening on Cyprus can only be described as an extraordinary delay due to the close proximity of the colonialists but this story is also coming to a close...

If Turkey joins the West she will have to abide by the laws of the West and that also means relinquishing Cyprus, if on the other hand she opts for the East she will then be subjugated by the West as she will be seen as a direct threat and will thus forcefully relinquish Cyprus.


Do you really believe what you say or are you conditioned to respond in that manner, man nothing will give you back what you lost unless you compromise and agree a structure where we take our role and have a say in our own future, we will not assimilate into a GC state where we are foreigners in our country.
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Postby dinos » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:30 pm

Boumboulina wrote:I like kiwi fruit small and hairy.


AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Image
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Postby Boumboulina » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:54 pm

dinos wrote:
Boumboulina wrote:I like kiwi fruit small and hairy.


AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Image


Hello Dinos. I like very much the little thing that laugh.
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Postby dinos » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:57 pm

Boumboulina wrote:
dinos wrote:
Boumboulina wrote:I like kiwi fruit small and hairy.


AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Image


Hello Dinos. I like very much the little thing that laugh.


Cheers Boumboulina, I hope you're well!
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