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[Piratis]

I don't believe in gods and in "men of god". What I believe is that Cyprus had the right to be free from rulers and the Cypriots had the right to decide in a democratic way the destiny of their own island. Since this right was not given to us then we had every right to fight for it.

Who were the terrorists are those that imposed by force their rule on us and murdered everybody that dared to ask for his freedom. Or when the British and the Turks were murdering Cypriots in order to enforce their rule over Cyprus it was OK, but when the Cypriots fought for their right to rule their own island it was not OK?

[Viewpoint]

You conveniently say Cypriots when you know full well that there were GCs and TCs and just has you had the right to want to get rid of the Brits we had the right to fight for what we thought was right and that was to stop you eradicating the Brits and handing Cyprus over to Greece. makarios was an evil bastard who said one thing but did another he was so despot he thought he was a god and could do as he pleases may he rot in hell where we all know he ended up. He is to blame for the 2 communities not becoming just "Cypriots" and if you are blind to this fact then dont try and sell the idea to us.

[Piratis]

You had no right to impose your will against the rights of the Cypriot people who in their great majority obviously wanted liberation from the colonialists.

You started the intercommunal conflict by siding with the colonialists, and then you blame Makarios for it. Ridiculous.

[phoenix]

You conveniently say Cypriots when you know full well that there were GCs and TCs and just has you had the right to want to get rid of the Brits we had the right to fight for what we thought was right and that was to stop you eradicating the Brits and handing Cyprus over to Greece. makarios was an evil bastard who said one thing but did another he was so despot he thought he was a god and could do as he pleases may he rot in hell where we all know he ended up. He is to blame for the 2 communities not becoming just "Cypriots" and if you are blind to this fact then dont try and sell the idea to us.

You were never invited along for the ride. You conquered, destroyed and could not fathom the thought that Cyprus may once again be free. You had to spoil everything with your pampered, petulant, chip on your shoulders way.

There should NEVER have been two communities.

[Viewpoint]

You had no right to impose your will against the rights of the Cypriot people who in their great majority obviously wanted liberation from the colonialists.

You started the intercommunal conflict by siding with the colonialists, and then you blame Makarios for it. Ridiculous.

Did we or did we not have the right to retaliate to your fight for expulsion of the Brits and your under lying desire to become Greece which would have meant an end to our community. We had to fight back for survival any community in the world would have done the same and do even today when they feel they are at risk, this was and is our right when forced to do someting against your will.

[Get Real!]

You conveniently say Cypriots when you know full well that there were GCs and TCs and just has you had the right to want to get rid of the Brits we had the right to fight for what we thought was right and that was to stop you eradicating the Brits and handing Cyprus over to Greece. makarios was an evil bastard who said one thing but did another he was so despot he thought he was a god and could do as he pleases may he rot in hell where we all know he ended up. He is to blame for the 2 communities not becoming just "Cypriots" and if you are blind to this fact then dont try and sell the idea to us.

You were never invited along for the ride. You conquered, destroyed and could not fathom the thought that Cyprus may once again be free. You had to spoil everything with your pampered, petulant, chip on your shoulders way.

There should NEVER have been two communities.

Very good point and Turkey's attempt to defy nature cannot survive the test of time.

[Get Real!]

You had no right to impose your will against the rights of the Cypriot people who in their great majority obviously wanted liberation from the colonialists.

You started the intercommunal conflict by siding with the colonialists, and then you blame Makarios for it. Ridiculous.

Did we or did we not have the right to retaliate to your fight for expulsion of the Brits and your under lying desire to become Greece which would have meant an end to our community. We had to fight back for survival any community in the world would have done the same and do even today when they feel they are at risk, this was and is our right when forced to do someting against your will.

The only reason you resisted is because Turkey was there. If that was not the case then you would've assimilated just fine with the rest of the country, as happens elsewhere all over the world, and you and I would've never met.

[miltiades]

You had no right to impose your will against the rights of the Cypriot people who in their great majority obviously wanted liberation from the colonialists.

You started the intercommunal conflict by siding with the colonialists, and then you blame Makarios for it. Ridiculous.

Did we or did we not have the right to retaliate to your fight for expulsion of the Brits and your under lying desire to become Greece which would have meant an end to our community. We had to fight back for survival any community in the world would have done the same and do even today when they feel they are at risk, this was and is our right when forced to do someting against your will.

VP , are you perhaps forgetting that 82% of Cypriots wanted the Brits out ?? Where is the injustice. The overwhelming majority wanted freedom from the Brits . I was one of them , I also wanted < wrongly with hindsight < Union with Greece. Can you honestly say that 82% were absolutely unfair and selfish , if you do then you must also support the Turkish Kurds who are a minority not dissimilar in percentage terms to that of the T/Cs. This is why today more and more Cypriots are brushing away the minority / majority issues and proudly state that we are Cypriots and we are the majority.
Don't blame the wishes of the people as the cause of the problems, blame the irresponsible fanatics , who just as they were pushing their separatist views then , are again repeating those views today.
Peace and stability and a bright future can be attained for our future generations by our acceptance of our true identity , that of Cypriots.

[miltiades]

What's the matter, miltiades: truth hurt? You need to be aware that the GC side is not the totally innocent lilly-white part in this conflict. Maybe you're the one who should get a life. My life here in the USA is quite pleasent, thank you...

I'm sure its pleasant , after all how many Americans spend their time on a forum of a tiny nation , a nation that needs support to overcome its problems and reach a peaceful solution that all its people are comfortable with.
Here comes an American , full of shit , telling me that truth hurts !!What truth mate , the fact that you are no more American than AsklaniHotza !!
As an American supporter , every one knows my views on this forum , let me quote a great American, " Get of your donkey and drink your milk !!
We need constructive posts not poisoned ones , remove the mask you are fooling no one ! Bet you dont even know where Paphos is , or even Louroutzina .

[Viewpoint]

miltiades

VP , are you perhaps forgetting that 82% of Cypriots wanted the Brits out ?? Where is the injustice. The overwhelming majority wanted freedom from the Brits . I was one of them , I also wanted < wrongly with hindsight < Union with Greece. Can you honestly say that 82% were absolutely unfair and selfish

Yes they were totally selfish where was your "Cypriotism" back then when you were promoting death to the minority via your so called freedom and desire to become Greece. Faced with the prospects of anniahalation and being the weaker community you side with whom ever you think will protect you, this is human nature, we had to fight back or else we woudl not be around today to claim we are your brothers.

if you do then you must also support the Turkish Kurds who are a minority not dissimilar in percentage terms to that of the T/Cs.

I woudl not have any problem supporting the Kurds if they had the exact same history as us and an agreement such as the 1960 partnership agreement we had.

This is why today more and more Cypriots are brushing away the minority / majority issues and proudly state that we are Cypriots and we are the majority.

We are all Cypriots to the majority of Tcs means come let us GCs absorb you into exsinction.

Don't blame the wishes of the people as the cause of the problems, blame the irresponsible fanatics , who just as they were pushing their separatist views then , are again repeating those views today.

Both sides have to pay a price for their past actions of fanatics and maybe just maybe then they say they have learned form those mistkaes but if this forum is anything to go bye we will never unite as we have not changed one iota in 44 years.

Peace and stability and a bright future can be attained for our future generations by our acceptance of our true identity , that of Cypriots.

As I stated above your newly found Cypriotism is to little to late and anew united Cyprus has to have a structure where there are safeguards to ensure one community cannot force the other to do anything against their will.