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Partiton on it's way.

Postby Eric dayi » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:10 pm

First GC to mention partition in Cyprus was Loucas Charalambous. Now it's
Matsakis (spelling??), rumour has it that TPapskiller and the Church has been considering this option as well.

Next, more prominent GCs will stand up and admit partition is the best solution in Cyprus.

Some Greek Cypriots living in Greek South Cyprus also prefer partition instead of unifying and sharing power with us TC because of their hate of anything Turkish.

Looks like the GCs are slowly getting used to the idea that partition is inevitable.


Partition Is The Solution We Deserve

By Loucas Charalambous

Ref: 30 January, 2005 CYPRUS MAIL

IN AN ARTICLE published in Athens newspaper Ta Nea, Alexis Heraclides, a lecturer at Greece's Pantion University, arrives at the following conclusion: "The Cyprus problem cannot be solved and will not be solved as long as the majority of Greek Cypriots are not in a position to comprehend the level of their responsibility for the situation in Cyprus up to the fait accompli of 1974. And this is, I would say, the deeper meaning of the 'resounding no' of April 24, 2004 they said no because they cannot yet face up to their guilt for that period." I disagree that this was the reason we rejected the settlement last April, but I will agree with Heraclides' point that Greek Cypriots are in no position to comprehend their responsibilities the responsibilities of their leadership, to be more precise for the situation before 1974. When they discuss the Cyprus problem, they always start from the premise that the Turks are to blame for everything. Our guys are the innocent virgins. This column has on countless occasions pointed out the horrific responsibilities of our leadership. These responsibilities can be seen in the violent dissolution of the state established by the Zurich agreement three years earlier, with the aim of terminating the participation of the Turkish Cypriots. That Tassos Papadopoulos one of the protagonists of this depressing story, which led to all the misfortunes that have followed since then is today the president of the Republic, thanks to the vote of the Greek Cypriots, is the most conclusive proof of their inability to recognise the responsibilities that Heraclides correctly talks about. In a country with a politically mature people, Papadopoulos and the other instigators of the bloody events of 1963 would have been finished as politicians. No mature people would have elected as their president, with the main responsibility of solving the national problem, one of the men who had been instrumental in creating it. The uproar, which was sparked the previous week by the views expressed by the General Secretary of the United Democrats, Costas Themistocleous, about the absurd term, 'pseudo-state', which the politicians and media insist on using, perfectly illustrates our political immaturity. Themistocleous had said he disagreed with the use of the prefix 'pseudo' for everything relating to the occupation regime, and preferred the terms 'illegal regime' or 'unrecognised regime', provoking a storm of protest. These idiotic word-games betray the politicians' inability to approach the problem with any seriousness. Paranoia has taken grip placing the 'pseudo' prefix in front of every word relating to the Turkish Cypriots and their regime has come to be considered national policy. And we are under the illusion that this pitiful practice is an adequate way of tackling the national problem. I would take Heraclides' views a step further, to their logical conclusion. The Cyprus problem has already been solved. A gullible population, thanks to the guidance of Papadopoulos and Christofias, supported by the political lightweights governing Greece since last March, has already chosen partition. This will inexorably lead to the creation of two states, along today's dividing line. No matter how repugnant, I personally consider that, in the end, such a solution is the one that our behaviour deserves. And it will prove our just punishment.


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Postby Kikapu » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:36 pm

I have a feeling that the GC's will agree to a Partition after they have gone through the "TRNC's" Property Commission and have gotten either their property back or compensation. At 20 cases being handled per year so far, it will take another 2,500 years to clear the 50,000+ cases yet to be filed.

So yes Eric Dayi, the Partition has already started and is rolling down the road to Never Never Land.

I can't wait to see you in year 4,507 AD, receiving the "keys" to your officially Partitioned State.
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Re: Partiton on it's way.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:07 pm

Eric dayi wrote:First GC to mention partition in Cyprus was Loucas Charalambous. Now it's
Matsakis (spelling??), rumour has it that TPapskiller and the Church has been considering this option as well.

Next, more prominent GCs will stand up and admit partition is the best solution in Cyprus.

Some Greek Cypriots living in Greek South Cyprus also prefer partition instead of unifying and sharing power with us TC because of their hate of anything Turkish.

Looks like the GCs are slowly getting used to the idea that partition is inevitable.


Partition Is The Solution We Deserve

By Loucas Charalambous

Ref: 30 January, 2005 CYPRUS MAIL

IN AN ARTICLE published in Athens newspaper Ta Nea, Alexis Heraclides, a lecturer at Greece's Pantion University, arrives at the following conclusion: "The Cyprus problem cannot be solved and will not be solved as long as the majority of Greek Cypriots are not in a position to comprehend the level of their responsibility for the situation in Cyprus up to the fait accompli of 1974. And this is, I would say, the deeper meaning of the 'resounding no' of April 24, 2004 they said no because they cannot yet face up to their guilt for that period." I disagree that this was the reason we rejected the settlement last April, but I will agree with Heraclides' point that Greek Cypriots are in no position to comprehend their responsibilities the responsibilities of their leadership, to be more precise for the situation before 1974. When they discuss the Cyprus problem, they always start from the premise that the Turks are to blame for everything. Our guys are the innocent virgins. This column has on countless occasions pointed out the horrific responsibilities of our leadership. These responsibilities can be seen in the violent dissolution of the state established by the Zurich agreement three years earlier, with the aim of terminating the participation of the Turkish Cypriots. That Tassos Papadopoulos one of the protagonists of this depressing story, which led to all the misfortunes that have followed since then is today the president of the Republic, thanks to the vote of the Greek Cypriots, is the most conclusive proof of their inability to recognise the responsibilities that Heraclides correctly talks about. In a country with a politically mature people, Papadopoulos and the other instigators of the bloody events of 1963 would have been finished as politicians. No mature people would have elected as their president, with the main responsibility of solving the national problem, one of the men who had been instrumental in creating it. The uproar, which was sparked the previous week by the views expressed by the General Secretary of the United Democrats, Costas Themistocleous, about the absurd term, 'pseudo-state', which the politicians and media insist on using, perfectly illustrates our political immaturity. Themistocleous had said he disagreed with the use of the prefix 'pseudo' for everything relating to the occupation regime, and preferred the terms 'illegal regime' or 'unrecognised regime', provoking a storm of protest. These idiotic word-games betray the politicians' inability to approach the problem with any seriousness. Paranoia has taken grip placing the 'pseudo' prefix in front of every word relating to the Turkish Cypriots and their regime has come to be considered national policy. And we are under the illusion that this pitiful practice is an adequate way of tackling the national problem. I would take Heraclides' views a step further, to their logical conclusion. The Cyprus problem has already been solved. A gullible population, thanks to the guidance of Papadopoulos and Christofias, supported by the political lightweights governing Greece since last March, has already chosen partition. This will inexorably lead to the creation of two states, along today's dividing line. No matter how repugnant, I personally consider that, in the end, such a solution is the one that our behaviour deserves. And it will prove our just punishment.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2005


I know of NO GC WHO buys the Cyprus Mail. This newspaper is British controlled and addresses the British and other foreigners living in Cyprus. Unfortunately is the only English newspaper in the government controlled areas, hence a monopoly. The British were always undermining the GCs and it seems the scope of that newspaper is to influence the British who live here and the GC expats who don't know enough Greek to read anything else.
So be sure whatever that newspaper intends, exactly the opposite is valid for the GCs.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:31 pm

Ho wont you hardliners be shocked if things did take a turn in that direction, who knows maybe there is truth in whats surfacing mastakis would be crazy enough to let the cat out of the bag as the EU will only tollerate so much arrogance and intrangience from the GC members.
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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:35 pm

Kikapu wrote:I have a feeling that the GC's will agree to a Partition after they have gone through the "TRNC's" Property Commission and have gotten either their property back or compensation. At 20 cases being handled per year so far, it will take another 2,500 years to clear the 50,000+ cases yet to be filed.

So yes Eric Dayi, the Partition has already started and is rolling down the road to Never Never Land.

I can't wait to see you in year 4,507 AD, receiving the "keys" to your officially Partitioned State.


Adding to the list of GCs who are speaking out in favour of partition:

The TRNC Property Commision legalised by the ECHR and accepted by the whole world.

Turkish Cypriot Judges in the ECHR (even though GCs tried their best to stop.)

The EU itching to show TPapskiller and GCs what it means to deceive the EU by lying to them.

At this rate we don't have to wait till the year 4,057 AD, the latest will more than likely be by the end of TPapskiller's next term as "President" of the country once know as "RoC".

Never mind kikapu, even if we don't get recognition by then the present situation is preferred by many from both sides of the border so there's no chance of unification which suits me right down to the ground as long as we don't have to live in a Greek/GC ruled country where we are not even allowed to call ourselves Turkish Cypriots. :wink: :wink:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:36 pm

Matsakis is a known Turk and British hater. He thinks with partition he can get rid of both. Btw he was expelled from his party a long time ago and they recently refused to take him back. Imo he is doing it for revenge....

Btw now he is singing music to your ears will you drop the charges against him for stealing your flag? :wink:
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Re: Partiton on it's way.

Postby Eric dayi » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:39 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:First GC to mention partition in Cyprus was Loucas Charalambous. Now it's
Matsakis (spelling??), rumour has it that TPapskiller and the Church has been considering this option as well.

Next, more prominent GCs will stand up and admit partition is the best solution in Cyprus.

Some Greek Cypriots living in Greek South Cyprus also prefer partition instead of unifying and sharing power with us TC because of their hate of anything Turkish.

Looks like the GCs are slowly getting used to the idea that partition is inevitable.


Partition Is The Solution We Deserve

By Loucas Charalambous

Ref: 30 January, 2005 CYPRUS MAIL

IN AN ARTICLE published in Athens newspaper Ta Nea, Alexis Heraclides, a lecturer at Greece's Pantion University, arrives at the following conclusion: "The Cyprus problem cannot be solved and will not be solved as long as the majority of Greek Cypriots are not in a position to comprehend the level of their responsibility for the situation in Cyprus up to the fait accompli of 1974. And this is, I would say, the deeper meaning of the 'resounding no' of April 24, 2004 they said no because they cannot yet face up to their guilt for that period." I disagree that this was the reason we rejected the settlement last April, but I will agree with Heraclides' point that Greek Cypriots are in no position to comprehend their responsibilities the responsibilities of their leadership, to be more precise for the situation before 1974. When they discuss the Cyprus problem, they always start from the premise that the Turks are to blame for everything. Our guys are the innocent virgins. This column has on countless occasions pointed out the horrific responsibilities of our leadership. These responsibilities can be seen in the violent dissolution of the state established by the Zurich agreement three years earlier, with the aim of terminating the participation of the Turkish Cypriots. That Tassos Papadopoulos one of the protagonists of this depressing story, which led to all the misfortunes that have followed since then is today the president of the Republic, thanks to the vote of the Greek Cypriots, is the most conclusive proof of their inability to recognise the responsibilities that Heraclides correctly talks about. In a country with a politically mature people, Papadopoulos and the other instigators of the bloody events of 1963 would have been finished as politicians. No mature people would have elected as their president, with the main responsibility of solving the national problem, one of the men who had been instrumental in creating it. The uproar, which was sparked the previous week by the views expressed by the General Secretary of the United Democrats, Costas Themistocleous, about the absurd term, 'pseudo-state', which the politicians and media insist on using, perfectly illustrates our political immaturity. Themistocleous had said he disagreed with the use of the prefix 'pseudo' for everything relating to the occupation regime, and preferred the terms 'illegal regime' or 'unrecognised regime', provoking a storm of protest. These idiotic word-games betray the politicians' inability to approach the problem with any seriousness. Paranoia has taken grip placing the 'pseudo' prefix in front of every word relating to the Turkish Cypriots and their regime has come to be considered national policy. And we are under the illusion that this pitiful practice is an adequate way of tackling the national problem. I would take Heraclides' views a step further, to their logical conclusion. The Cyprus problem has already been solved. A gullible population, thanks to the guidance of Papadopoulos and Christofias, supported by the political lightweights governing Greece since last March, has already chosen partition. This will inexorably lead to the creation of two states, along today's dividing line. No matter how repugnant, I personally consider that, in the end, such a solution is the one that our behaviour deserves. And it will prove our just punishment.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2005


I know of NO GC WHO buys the Cyprus Mail. This newspaper is British controlled and addresses the British and other foreigners living in Cyprus. Unfortunately is the only English newspaper in the government controlled areas, hence a monopoly. The British were always undermining the GCs and it seems the scope of that newspaper is to influence the British who live here and the GC expats who don't know enough Greek to read anything else.
So be sure whatever that newspaper intends, exactly the opposite is valid for the GCs.


"It wasn't us Sir, it was them. Honestly Sir, we are innocent Sir."

How did I know that you would come up with something like this?


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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:42 pm

its been the aim of TCS all along for parition the placing of the bomb by tmt to the turkish so they thing GCS did it causing trouble causing eoka to rebelle against the turks after the turkich goverment tells tmt to put bomb ... turkey pulled it off nicely now ur dreaming thinking that Turkish Republic of northern INVADED cyprus will EVER be recognised... it will rain money before that happens
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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:44 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Matsakis is a known Turk and British hater.


He is good company if he joined this forum then.


He thinks with partition he can get rid of both. Btw he was expelled from his party a long time ago and they recently refused to take him back. Imo he is doing it for revenge....


But then again he could be doing it in agreement with your "President" in order to get you used to the idea of partition. :wink:

Btw now he is singing music to your ears will you drop the charges against him for stealing your flag? :wink:


And give the game away? Not on your nelly apl. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:45 pm

paliometoxo wrote:its been the aim of TCS all along for parition the placing of the bomb by tmt to the turkish so they thing GCS did it causing trouble causing eoka to rebelle against the turks after the turkich goverment tells tmt to put bomb ... turkey pulled it off nicely now ur dreaming thinking that Turkish Republic of northern INVADED cyprus will EVER be recognised... it will rain money before that happens


All you have to do is wait and see, continue with your cuurent mindset and guarantee division forever.
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