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[DT.]

"What we learn from History is that we do not learn from History"''said some wiseman whose name escapes me at the moment...

Just look back over the past 3000 years of Cypriot history...And tell me which occupying power got to rule forever???Cypriot people are great survivors,and they will survive their most recent occupiers as well...That is as sure as night follows day...It is only a matter of time...Cyprus will again belong to her people,the Cypriots...

Eisai Tsiakkos!

Who or what is Tsiakkos?????

Tsiakkos=Clever

Tsiakkos= You the Man!

[BirKibrisli]

Thanks guys...
Coming from GR...that is some compliment!!!

[DT.]

Thanks guys...
Coming from GR...that is some compliment!!!

yeah, usually he only complements himself.

[Viewpoint]

Nikitas

All the cases you mention are non EU members. In the event of partition becoming official the EU will be faced with the problem of accepting the confiscation of property of its own citizens- namely Greek Cypriots who own land in the north. It will also be accepting the exclusion of these people from their property based on their ethnic origin. It will in effect be accepting a reversal of its legal order and principles in the proposed state.

THis is the problem in Kosovo where the pressure is on the Kosovar ALbanians to guarantee the rights of residence of all communities and to accept international observers to ensure that this happens.

You forget that in the cases you mentioned there is no foreign occupation by an outside power. Would Kosovo be the same situation if Albania had been occupying a third of the province?

Nikitas, does that mean that if the EU is not prepared to compromise its principles, laws and regulations on human rihts as mentioned above in relation to property, political rights based on ethnic origin. The trnc as an independent state with a pending application for EU membership will have to restore these rights? Therefore in essence with 200,000 refugees being given the right of return and political rights that would mean that they will be able to organise and join existing political parties in that State? Therefore out number TC's and naturally will become a GC dominated society with naturally the possibility of GC running the parliament.

Therefore, the other option for an independent trnc state it would have to withdraw its application or fullfil the requirements of human rights for all its citizens.

Who said an independent TRNC will want to be in the EU? This would be a mistake for TCs, the only way around this would be to have degrodations like Malta where there are quotas placed on citizenship so as to avoid the issue you have pointed out, a sudden influx of GCs to take control of the TRNC.

[Viewpoint]

"What we learn from History is that we do not learn from History"''said some wiseman whose name escapes me at the moment...

Just look back over the past 3000 years of Cypriot history...And tell me which occupying power got to rule forever???Cypriot people are great survivors,and they will survive their most recent occupiers as well...That is as sure as night follows day...It is only a matter of time...Cyprus will again belong to her people,the Cypriots...

Unfortunately Bir you will be long gone and there is a high risk that nothing will change.

[Kikapu]

Who said an independent TRNC will want to be in the EU? This would be a mistake for TCs, the only way around this would be to have degrodations like Malta where there are quotas placed on citizenship so as to avoid the issue you have pointed out, a sudden influx of GCs to take control of the TRNC.

Don't panic VP, because the "TRNC" is not going anywhere unless Turkey is going somewhere as far as membership to the EU. Has the "TRNC" and Turkey asked the RoC's permission to let us and Turkey into the EU club yet.??

What do you think the RoC will want in return to let Turkey in, and, lets stretch the imagination here a bit, and say that the "TRNC" has gained it's True Independence and not the one we have now, where we need to ask for a permission to stage a friendly International football game.

What are we offering to the RoC for all this to happen.??

[humanist]

Tsiakos I believe mean a little more than Clever. I think it means a Clever modern day hero, doesn't it?

[BirKibrisli]

Thanks guys...
Coming from GR...that is some compliment!!!

yeah, usually he only complements himself.

Well someone has to do it,DT...Obviously even his mother doesn't compliment him enough..

[BirKibrisli]

"What we learn from History is that we do not learn from History"''said some wiseman whose name escapes me at the moment...

Just look back over the past 3000 years of Cypriot history...And tell me which occupying power got to rule forever???Cypriot people are great survivors,and they will survive their most recent occupiers as well...That is as sure as night follows day...It is only a matter of time...Cyprus will again belong to her people,the Cypriots...

Unfortunately Bir you will be long gone and there is a high risk that nothing will change.

True enough that I will be gone,VP...But don't fool yourself,nothing remains the same in the long run...Where is the mighty Roman Empire now? The Bryzantine??? The Ottoman??? The USSR????

But as long as the world is here,Cyprus and Cypriots will remain...
Nothing more certain than that...And there will not be any sign of Partition anywhere...

[humanist]

ok VP whatever, after that coment I don't think I can take you coments seriously anymore, I will not waste any more of your time.