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Partiton on it's way.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:33 pm

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Thanks, good to be multilingual. maybe your Macedonian, but it doesnt matter, I dont want you arguing again with your fellow counrymen. I did recognize the second sentence


Actually thank you.I know it is good to be multilingual.
On the other hand i am not ethnic Macedonian.
You know...you can learn a language without being a part of that ethnic group if you have lived for some time in this country.So that would explain my fluency in Bulgarian.
I remain 100% Greek.If you call Greek a nationality that is 8) :lol:
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I have followed your earlier arguments with GCs and Greeks which I did find puzzling, which did lead me to these conclusions, wrongly. Being in the HAC and your arguments with our compatriots, I found surprising. You are what you feel like in the end. I will not make any more assumptions. Period.
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Postby SN » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:39 pm

I have followed your earlier arguments with GCs and Greeks which I did find puzzling, which did lead me to these conclusions, wrongly. Being in the HAC and your arguments with our compatriots, I found surprising. You are what you feel like in the end. I will not make any more assumptions. Period.


Thank you for that promise.There is no doubt about my national consciousness which is Greek.Regardless of what my biggot compatriots say i am just making fun of their insecurities and play around with their denial to believe that an ethnic Greek cant have a harsh critisism against Greece.
I actually have the outmost love and patriotism for Greece,regardless of the criticism i do for the policies Greece uses.Greece has been and continues to be my one and only motherland.
I just do the harsh love thing on her :lol: 8)
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:05 pm

SN wrote:
I have followed your earlier arguments with GCs and Greeks which I did find puzzling, which did lead me to these conclusions, wrongly. Being in the HAC and your arguments with our compatriots, I found surprising. You are what you feel like in the end. I will not make any more assumptions. Period.


Thank you for that promise.There is no doubt about my national consciousness which is Greek.Regardless of what my biggot compatriots say i am just making fun of their insecurities and play around with their denial to believe that an ethnic Greek cant have a harsh critisism against Greece.
I actually have the outmost love and patriotism for Greece,regardless of the criticism i do for the policies Greece uses.Greece has been and continues to be my one and only motherland.
I just do the harsh love thing on her :lol: 8)



I always will admire well placed patriotism
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:45 pm

Well, who wrote the sentence below?

The Cyprus problem has already been solved. A gullible population, thanks to the guidance of Papadopoulos and Christofias, supported by the political lightweights governing Greece since last March, has already chosen partition. This will inexorably lead to the creation of two states, along today's dividing line. No matter how repugnant, I personally consider that, in the end, such a solution is the one that our behaviour deserves. And it will prove our just punishment.


I cannot find the original thread.
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Postby alexISS » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:55 pm

It's quoted in the first post of this thread
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Postby alexISS » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:58 pm

denizaksulu, calling Greek Cypriots "Tourkosporous" (=bastards of Turks) is not very patriotic as it would not be patriotic for a Turk to call the Turkish Cypriots "Ellinosporous"
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Re: Partiton on it's way.

Postby theodore » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:58 pm

[quote="Pyrpolizer"][quote="Eric dayi"]First GC to mention partition in Cyprus was Loucas Charalambous. Now it's
Matsakis (spelling??), rumour has it that TPapskiller and the Church has been considering this option as well.

Next, more prominent GCs will stand up and admit partition is the best solution in Cyprus.

Some Greek Cypriots living in Greek South Cyprus also prefer partition instead of unifying and sharing power with us TC because of their hate of anything Turkish.

Looks like the GCs are slowly getting used to the idea that partition is inevitable.


[quote]Partition Is The Solution We Deserve

By Loucas Charalambous

Ref: 30 January, 2005 CYPRUS MAIL

IN AN ARTICLE published in Athens newspaper Ta Nea, Alexis Heraclides, a lecturer at Greece's Pantion University, arrives at the following conclusion: "The Cyprus problem cannot be solved and will not be solved as long as the majority of Greek Cypriots are not in a position to comprehend the level of their responsibility for the situation in Cyprus up to the fait accompli of 1974. And this is, I would say, the deeper meaning of the 'resounding no' of April 24, 2004 they said no because they cannot yet face up to their guilt for that period." I disagree that this was the reason we rejected the settlement last April, but I will agree with Heraclides' point that Greek Cypriots are in no position to comprehend their responsibilities the responsibilities of their leadership, to be more precise for the situation before 1974. When they discuss the Cyprus problem, they always start from the premise that the Turks are to blame for everything. Our guys are the innocent virgins. This column has on countless occasions pointed out the horrific responsibilities of our leadership. These responsibilities can be seen in the violent dissolution of the state established by the Zurich agreement three years earlier, with the aim of terminating the participation of the Turkish Cypriots. That Tassos Papadopoulos one of the protagonists of this depressing story, which led to all the misfortunes that have followed since then is today the president of the Republic, thanks to the vote of the Greek Cypriots, is the most conclusive proof of their inability to recognise the responsibilities that Heraclides correctly talks about. In a country with a politically mature people, Papadopoulos and the other instigators of the bloody events of 1963 would have been finished as politicians. No mature people would have elected as their president, with the main responsibility of solving the national problem, one of the men who had been instrumental in creating it. The uproar, which was sparked the previous week by the views expressed by the General Secretary of the United Democrats, Costas Themistocleous, about the absurd term, 'pseudo-state', which the politicians and media insist on using, perfectly illustrates our political immaturity. Themistocleous had said he disagreed with the use of the prefix 'pseudo' for everything relating to the occupation regime, and preferred the terms 'illegal regime' or 'unrecognised regime', provoking a storm of protest. These idiotic word-games betray the politicians' inability to approach the problem with any seriousness. Paranoia has taken grip placing the 'pseudo' prefix in front of every word relating to the Turkish Cypriots and their regime has come to be considered national policy. And we are under the illusion that this pitiful practice is an adequate way of tackling the national problem. I would take Heraclides' views a step further, to their logical conclusion. [b]The Cyprus problem has already been solved. A gullible population, thanks to the guidance of Papadopoulos and Christofias, supported by the political lightweights governing Greece since last March, has already chosen partition. This will inexorably lead to the creation of two states, along today's dividing line.[/b] No matter how repugnant, I personally consider that, in the end, such a solution is the one that our behaviour deserves. And it will prove our just punishment.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2005[/quote][/quote]

I know of NO GC WHO buys the Cyprus Mail. This newspaper is British controlled and addresses the British and other foreigners living in Cyprus. Unfortunately is the only English newspaper in the government controlled areas, hence a monopoly. The British were always undermining the GCs and it seems the scope of that newspaper is to influence the British who live here and the GC expats who don't know enough Greek to read anything else.
So be sure whatever that newspaper intends, exactly the opposite is valid for the GCs.[/quote]

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How is all this taking place with out the GC government not saying anything it looks to me that Mr. Matsakis did not won in 1974 he made the Greek Cypriots safer now he like to divide. For this reason I said it before and I am saying it again that both mother lands must removed at ones if Cyprus is to find solution.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:02 pm

alexISS wrote:denizaksulu, calling Greek Cypriots "Tourkosporous" (=bastards of Turks) is not very patriotic as it would not be patriotic for a Turk to call the Turkish Cypriots "Ellinosporous"



You've got me puzzled there. Where did you see me say anything like that? I do not insult anyone. Show me.

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Postby alexISS » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:25 am

denizaksulu wrote:
alexISS wrote:denizaksulu, calling Greek Cypriots "Tourkosporous" (=bastards of Turks) is not very patriotic as it would not be patriotic for a Turk to call the Turkish Cypriots "Ellinosporous"



You've got me puzzled there. Where did you see me say anything like that? I do not insult anyone. Show me.

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You didn't. SN did, the one who you consider a healthy patriot
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:48 am

alexISS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
alexISS wrote:denizaksulu, calling Greek Cypriots "Tourkosporous" (=bastards of Turks) is not very patriotic as it would not be patriotic for a Turk to call the Turkish Cypriots "Ellinosporous"



You've got me puzzled there. Where did you see me say anything like that? I do not insult anyone. Show me.

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You didn't. SN did, the one who you consider a healthy patriot




AlexISS: What I said was

"I always will admire well placed patriotism".

I was making a general statement, and not refering to SNs particular posts.
I am sorry for any misunderstanding caused. My emphasis was in the word 'well placed.' In his particular posts, I found him particularly unpatriotic to his own country, Hellas. So much that I accused him wrongly of being amongst others ethnically Bulgarian or Macedonian.
He produced so much vitriol against Greece at the time, I felt that he was not vey patriotic. But now he states that he was merely disagreeing with the Hellenic goverments policies.

Are we now clear on my statement?

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