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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:45 pm

paliometoxo wrote:it will rain money before that happens


Where, where?
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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:its been the aim of TCS all along for parition the placing of the bomb by tmt to the turkish so they thing GCS did it causing trouble causing eoka to rebelle against the turks after the turkich goverment tells tmt to put bomb ... turkey pulled it off nicely now ur dreaming thinking that Turkish Republic of northern INVADED cyprus will EVER be recognised... it will rain money before that happens


All you have to do is wait and see, continue with your cuurent mindset and guarantee division forever.


But make sure he first tells us where it will rain money while he is waiting VP. :lol: :lol:
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:51 pm

in ur dreams! just like where the invaded north is gonna be recognised ... only turkey will recognise EVER.

your mistaking fantasy for reality.
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Postby observer » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:32 am

Maybe, but in the last 15 years Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia, Kosovo (?), East Timor, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan (Sorry if I’ve missed any out) show how things can change.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:41 am

observer wrote:Maybe, but in the last 15 years Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia, Kosovo (?), East Timor, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan (Sorry if I’ve missed any out) show how things can change.


Most of those examples show how the northern part of our country can be liberated from foreign occupation. E.g. How Latvia was liberated from the USSR superpower even though there is a 30% Russian minority there.

Non of them is an example of a country that was created by means of invasion and ethnic cleansing.
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Postby observer » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:45 am

Piratis wrote
Most of those examples show how the northern part of our country can be liberated from foreign occupation. E.g. How Latvia was liberated from the USSR superpower even though there is a 30% Russian minority there.


Which would seem to indicate that there was a 70% Latvian majority. There's not such a majority of GCs in TRNC.
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Postby humanist » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:50 am

I wonder if Cyprus will veto an application of the independent trnc to EU for membership?
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:00 am

Humanist,

Cyprus will have no say initially in the accession of an independent TRNC to the EU. First TRNC will have to apply, then it will have to fulfill the conditions set by the EU, which cover about 30 different "dossiers" some of which will involve human rights, the application of the EU legal order in the applying state and that will be the sticking point. The applying state will have to prove that it does not discrimate against anyone on the grounds of nationality, religion, race, political affiliation etc. and is ready to accept the free movement of persons etc.

The present rulers of the TRNC thought they were being clever when they stopped the application of the EU legal order in the occupied part of Cyprus. Having thus practically excluded themselves from a future automatic accession in the event of partition becoming official.

Additionally other countries, like Austria and LUxembourg to name two, will not permit automatic accession because they do not want to smooth the way for mainland Turkey into the EU.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:09 am

observer wrote:Maybe, but in the last 15 years Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia, Kosovo (?), East Timor, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan (Sorry if I’ve missed any out) show how things can change.


If you ask Piratis, Observer, he will tell you, it is because of "Change of Power" were the reasons of the changes above.

It could also be that, "Time does not stand still".

Perhaps Piratis is correct, that that's what is needed to also solve the Cyprus Problem.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:10 am

observer wrote:Piratis wrote
Most of those examples show how the northern part of our country can be liberated from foreign occupation. E.g. How Latvia was liberated from the USSR superpower even though there is a 30% Russian minority there.


Which would seem to indicate that there was a 70% Latvian majority. There's not such a majority of GCs in TRNC.


There is no "trnc" but an occupied part of Republic of Cyprus. And that occupied part is the homeland of 5 times more GCs than TCs.

And I ask you again: Was there a case of a state that was created by means of invasion and ethnically cleansing most of its population and replacing them with foreigners? Definitely not since International law and human rights were accepted. (maybe that happened in the middle ages, and I am sure you feel very nostalgic about that era, where the Turks could simply invade, kill and steal the land of others)
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