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Clarifications and Intentions...

Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:19 am

Okay...

I think it obvious to those who use this forum that my sympathies lie with the Turkish Cypriot people, and that given the animosities that have existed between the two principal communities of Cyprus, that the only way that I believe that peace will prevail is the acknowledgement of two sovereign states on that island.

Some of you out there regard me (at best) as misinformed, deluded, or (at worst) a Greek-hating extremist, but I wish to make one thing clear: despite my concerns as to the xenophobia displayed by Greece and Greek Cyprus, I have never called for - nor supported - any move to end the Greek presence on the island. I just cannot believe that the Turkish Cypriot people would be treated fairly under Greek Cypriot rule.

So this topic is your opening to those who think that my views on this matter are wrong: What can you say to me to allay these concerns? If any of you were the president of (south) Cyprus, what would you say to me that would make me revise my opinion? If - as is widely claimed - the philosophy of enosis no longer exists, then I wait to be convinced.
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:19 am

no way is that the best soulation the turks take our land an expect it to be recognised... we will never accept two seperate states in cyprus we will never let the Turkish republic of norther invaded cyprus to be recognised
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:24 am

the cyprus problem is like the twin towers only has been lasting 34 years.. the turks being the terrorists.
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Postby humanist » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:30 am

paliometoxo, I disagree, both communities need to take responsibility for their actions and stop blaming each other. What happened at Tochni village is no excusable and justce needs to be brought to light. That is not to say the killings undetaken by TC fascists need go unnamed either. But we all need to take responsibility for the Cypro.
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:40 am

your right but partition is not the answer
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Postby humanist » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:46 am

No partition for some of us is not the answer and I am not pro partition either, however swearing and calling each other names wil not bring us closer to one another or closer to unification.

I do believe that the RoC needs to take action to correct some of the past wrongs, even if that is not reciprocated by the TC leadership or community.

There are a lot of good people living in the occupied areas of Cyprus some who want unification more than the RoC citizens. I have done a lot of reading on the rally organised a couple of years ago just before or near the time the RoC got EU membership not one trnc or Turkish flag was flown. Surely that tells you something.
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Re: Clarifications and Intentions...

Postby Kifeas » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:50 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Okay...

I think it obvious to those who use this forum that my sympathies lie with the Turkish Cypriot people, and that given the animosities that have existed between the two principal communities of Cyprus, that the only way that I believe that peace will prevail is the acknowledgement of two sovereign states on that island.

Some of you out there regard me (at best) as misinformed, deluded, or (at worst) a Greek-hating extremist, but I wish to make one thing clear: despite my concerns as to the xenophobia displayed by Greece and Greek Cyprus, I have never called for - nor supported - any move to end the Greek presence on the island. I just cannot believe that the Turkish Cypriot people would be treated fairly under Greek Cypriot rule.

So this topic is your opening to those who think that my views on this matter are wrong: What can you say to me to allay these concerns? If any of you were the president of (south) Cyprus, what would you say to me that would make me revise my opinion? If - as is widely claimed - the philosophy of enosis no longer exists, then I wait to be convinced.


Can you clarify what do you mean by the above sence that I have underlined? Who asked or wants the Turkish Cypriots to be "under Greek Cypriot rule?"
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Postby theodore » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:28 am

[quote="paliometoxo"]no way is that the best soulation the turks take our land an expect it to be recognised... we will never accept two seperate states in cyprus we will never let the Turkish republic of norther invaded cyprus to be recognised[/quote]

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Postby theodore » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:35 am

[quote="paliometoxo"]the cyprus problem is like the twin towers only has been lasting 34 years.. the turks being the terrorists.[/quote]

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Now you speaking my language i have been tell in them here in DC to look Turkey closer they are more Terrorist then more Americans let to believe check there true color you see ... we must ....
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Postby theodore » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:37 am

[quote="humanist"]paliometoxo, I disagree, both communities need to take responsibility for their actions and stop blaming each other. What happened at Tochni village is no excusable and justce needs to be brought to light. That is not to say the killings undetaken by TC fascists need go unnamed either. But we all need to take responsibility for the Cypro.[/quote]


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