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by **twinkle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:05 am

What about the destruction and massacre in Chios???

by **phoenix** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:35 am

twinkle wrote:What about the destruction and massacre in Chios???

Good point Twinkle, and one that has strong parallels with the Cyprus problem. Chios was a peaceful and prosperous island when they unfortunately gained recognition for suffering one of Histories most tragic acts of Genocide. Over 40,000 inhabitants suffered at the hands of Turkish soldiers who tortured, hanged and butchered their way through the island. (Fortunately we had the UN intervene in Cyprus otherwise who knows how similar our losses would have been.)

These Turkish atrocities were well documented at the time and "filled the British Nation with horror and disgust".

The main stumbling block in moving forward on the Cyprus problem is that Turkey continues to revert and erase History regarding it's past misdemeanours.

I would like Turkey to show some integrity, take responsibility for its atrocities and undergo REMORSE.

Perhaps then we can progress to working in partnership with a dignified Turkey.

by **halil** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:21 pm

have a read below links.
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/genocide-greek.htm

http://www.macedoniainfo.com/macedonia/ ... ildren.htm

too many , i will not post.

i am not interesting with past

by **denizaksulu** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:38 pm

halil wrote:have a read below links.
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/genocide-greek.htm

http://www.macedoniainfo.com/macedonia/ ... ildren.htm

too many , i will not post.

i am not interesting with past

You are correct Halil. A pedantic thread. Mud slinging is not such a good idea. Those that live in glass houses....

We could begin with the adopted Macedonian, Alexander and start counting. There would not be enough pages to include everything up to the Greek Attempts in 1974. I am sure someone could present a worthwhile list. Yet it does nothing for inter TC and GC harmony/relations.

Best ignored

Regards

by **phoenix** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:45 pm

halil wrote:have a read below links.
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/genocide-greek.htm

http://www.macedoniainfo.com/macedonia/ ... ildren.htm

too many , i will not post.

i am not interesting with past

Halil as for your first link:

When a country has been invaded (Greece by Turkey) it is not Genocide when they retaliate by fighting for their freedom. These are the casualties of war and the ones held responsible are the initial invaders (Turks). The Greeks were fighting for their freedom and took casualties . . unfortunate but of a size that does not equate with the over-zealous slaughter exhibited whenever the Turks go on the rampage.

As for the second link that has a lot of propaganda baggage behind it which I'll get to the bottom of later.

But I appreciate your wish to exchange.

by **halil** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:53 pm

phoenix wrote:
halil wrote:have a read below links.
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/genocide-greek.htm

http://www.macedoniainfo.com/macedonia/ ... ildren.htm

too many , i will not post.

i am not interesting with past

Halil as for your first link:

When a country has been invaded (Greece by Turkey) it is not Genocide when they retaliate by fighting for their freedom. These are the casualties of war and the ones held responsible are the initial invaders (Turks). The Greeks were fighting for their freedom and took casualties . . unfortunate but of a size that does not equate with the over-zealous slaughter exhibited whenever the Turks go on the rampage.

As for the second link that has a lot of propaganda baggage behind it which I'll get to the bottom of later.

But I appreciate your wish to exchange.

phoenix,

Tell me what u can get always talking about past ........

We all know ...... We are at 2007....... Things have to be solve with new conditions ....... otherwise it will be unsolved forever. The children of the Greeks and Turks will never enjoy , the joys of the our world.

by **phoenix** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:14 pm

halil wrote:
phoenix wrote:
halil wrote:have a read below links.
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/genocide-greek.htm

http://www.macedoniainfo.com/macedonia/ ... ildren.htm

too many , i will not post.

i am not interesting with past

Halil as for your first link:

When a country has been invaded (Greece by Turkey) it is not Genocide when they retaliate by fighting for their freedom. These are the casualties of war and the ones held responsible are the initial invaders (Turks). The Greeks were fighting for their freedom and took casualties . . unfortunate but of a size that does not equate with the over-zealous slaughter exhibited whenever the Turks go on the rampage.

As for the second link that has a lot of propaganda baggage behind it which I'll get to the bottom of later.

But I appreciate your wish to exchange.

phoenix,

Tell me what u can get always talking about past ........

We all know ...... We are at 2007....... Things have to be solve with new conditions ....... otherwise it will be unsolved forever. The children of the Greeks and Turks will never enjoy , the joys of the our world.

Halil:
I don't think things can just be swept under the carpet because they are in the past . . . OTHERWISE we are deemed to repeat the same mistakes.

These atrocities, unless addressed and acknowledged by Turkey, will serve to make us think that Turkey can continue UNCHALLENGED to repeat and expect to get away with, more of the same.

I would love a new generation to grow up on a level playing field having HONESTLY put the atrocities of the past behind. But this can only be done if Turkey actually stops lying and confesses . . .

Then we will trust Turkey and only then can we be equal . . and move forward as like-minded Nations.