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[denizaksulu]

You dont ask for much, do you Phoenix.
If you assimilate with TCs - does that include intemarriage? What is your definition of assimilation? Do you see this ever happening?

I don't believe in marriage full stop. I don't believe in anything that shackles people. People are free to do as they wish so long as they don't hurt others.

Assimilation just means getting together and exchanging the time of day.

What time is it Denizaksulu?

20.56, time for peace, love and understanding

[humanist]

What about the destruction and massacre in Chios???

doesn't count apparently if your a Turk you do no wrong. Neither does the doner kebab, it was the Lebanese who invented it. Armenian genocide , what genocide. Turkish invasion of Cyprus its a peace operation that keeps 200,000 people out of their homes, Pontians, who are they? they are all eliminated. Kurds who cares about them?

A proud Turkish perspective on the issues.

[Viewpoint]

What about the destruction and massacre in Chios???

doesn't count apparently if your a Turk you do no wrong. Neither does the doner kebab, it was the Lebanese who invented it. Armenian genocide , what genocide. Turkish invasion of Cyprus its a peace operation that keeps 200,000 people out of their homes, Pontians, who are they? they are all eliminated. Kurds who cares about them?

A proud Turkish perspective on the issues.

What happened to you? you are no different from your GC comrades, maybe even worse as you disguised yourself as a "humanist" now you appear to hate and try to degrade TCs and Turks at every opportunity, you have come a long way, must make you feel good.

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas I see the colour red has attracted you to LondonBoys selection of quotes.
Please see above post, my reply to Miltiades to clarify my standpoint that I do nothing more than thrash out ideas to find some sense. It is my way.

I would never stoop to dictate to someone how to conduct their ideas . . I just retort in kind.
But, I appreciate your worries though.

My nick has nothing to do with the Junta for whom my feelings towards would put your own to shame. It merely represents my return since forced out by some TCs (a minor mirror of what Turkey did to me and my family with their bombs).

If I use the term "we" it is only because "I" would sound more authoritarian. This is just semantics.

I stand by my firm belief that I owe it to my country upon my return in a few months from my forced exile, to remind it that it deserves better than being a second rate split nation. That means GCs have to stop pussyfooting and cowering to please all and sundry and set the example by firmly leading in a Democratic way.

But be under no misapprehensions, in whatever way I ask or even demand . . it is for a Democracy where all it's civilians will help govern by whom they elect to do so on their behalf.

Your statements were quite clear and honest, dont allow them to shut you up or change your mind to suit their secrective and dangerous position. Tcs are fully aware that the majority of GCs share your views if not openly they are waiting for a time when the "native Cypriots" which you have sstated as the GCs rule their country and we TCs can stay if we are good just like other foreigners.

VP, you may believe the role of the fox trying to steal the crow’s food through praising its “sweet” voice, suits you well -after all the fox is usually associated with the slyness of some females; however, you should never forget that Aesop was a Greek!

Appears you worked your magic again Kifeas and sent phoenix back to the ashes, he appears to be towing the line now, well done. He openly displayed what GCs really feel deep down and what we now exists, that Cyprus belongs to GCs and we are just foreigners who should toe the line and accept GC domination.

[humanist]

What happened to me is that I heard your leader on tv. and I have become angry. he clearly said there are no refugees, my grandmother left her home with only the clothes she was weraing, I woke up one morning to find over 30 refugees in our home, my uncle was killed by the Turkish army, i have no right to return to my country, you have every right in Cyprus including the right of return, I want mt inheritance but you say i can not have it. respect goes two ways this is my lifetime unlike you I do not go back to ancient times these are issues that have affected me since I was 6 years old. that is what happened to me. your leaders disrepsectful comments got a reaction from me he said and is doing things that offend me.

I have never denied your right to live in any part of Cyprus, I have denied your freedom to move in Cyprus I have never denied your right to your land in Lemesos or Pahos or larnaca not even in Kyrenia or Amohostos, you on the other hand have taken it upon yourself to deny me my rights and to top it up your believe that it is okay.

Furthermore in my posts to Zan, I have never denied the fact that I cannot stand the Turkish governement and yes in that I cannot stand Turks, I have not discriminated against TC's based on that fact alone. I want you as TC to share every part and every aspect of Cyprus but that does not mean sitting back allowing you to deny me my rights steal my property and then insult me by saying there are no refugees in Cyprus, We are not willing to give anything in return for direct trade, we will invade kill and behave like savages because we can,

[repulsewarrior]

tricked by the eu
tricked by theun
cheated by the british
isthere a pattern
in turkey's
external affairs?

[Viewpoint]

humanist

What happened to me is that I heard your leader on tv. and I have become angry. he clearly said there are no refugees, my grandmother left her home with only the clothes she was weraing, I woke up one morning to find over 30 refugees in our home, my uncle was killed by the Turkish army,

As I said before I am very sorry about your uncle but what Talat was saying is that the generation are changing and children of dead refugees will no longer be refugees.

We must never forget both sides suffered, but try to blame those that caused all this, those first bastards that followed their own agenda to give Cyprus to Greece.

I listen to your leader and I feel sick his face say i am an eoka man I believe in enosis, death to all TCs and Turks...

i have no right to return to my country,

You do Cyprus is 63% of the island and you can also travel and stay in the 37% now called the TRNC.

you have every right in Cyprus including the right of return

You are right I can go live in south Cyprus where there is a GC state run by GCs for GCs, I am not a GC.

I want mt inheritance but you say i can not have it. respect goes two ways this is my lifetime unlike you I do not go back to ancient times these are issues that have affected me since I was 6 years old. that is what happened to me. your leaders disrepsectful comments got a reaction from me he said and is doing things that offend me.

Tell you leader to stop tricking you into believing you will all go back to how it was, and negotiate in goodfaith a comprehensive solution making compromises and not just demanding and dictating to us who are their equal partners not just another minority they can push around and bully.

I have never denied your right to live in any part of Cyprus, I have denied your freedom to move in Cyprus I have never denied your right to your land in Lemesos or Pahos or larnaca not even in Kyrenia or Amohostos, you on the other hand have taken it upon yourself to deny me my rights and to top it up your believe that it is okay.

1963 to 1974 TCs were denied many rights, you have to acknowledge this to understand why we are so mistrusting of GC intentions. You to can get as many right as you wish within the framework of a comprehensive solution just like I can get the right to my land in the south which is denied me even today.

I cannot stand the Turkish governement and yes in that I cannot stand Turks,

Isnt this discrimination? is it for what they did to GCs, the shoudl we feel the same about GCs and what they did to us?

I want you as TC to share every part and every aspect of Cyprus but that does not mean sitting back allowing you to deny me my rights steal my property and then insult me by saying there are no refugees in Cyprus, We are not willing to give anything in return for direct trade, we will invade kill and behave like savages because we can,

You want us to share as long as you are in charge and make the rules, if you want to solve matters go to your despot leaders and tell the to propose a solution in place of what they rejected.

If you attack then we will respond like we have always done, its called retaliation and our right to fight back in times of danger with all our might and ferocity. So the Turkish army does serve its purpose or you guys would have attacked many years ago, that makes my respect for the army even stronger.

[Eric dayi]

What happened to me is that I heard your leader on tv. and I have become angry. he clearly said there are no refugees, my grandmother left her home with only the clothes she was weraing, I woke up one morning to find over 30 refugees in our home, my uncle was killed by the Turkish army, i have no right to return to my country, you have every right in Cyprus including the right of return, I want mt inheritance but you say i can not have it. respect goes two ways this is my lifetime unlike you I do not go back to ancient times these are issues that have affected me since I was 6 years old. that is what happened to me. your leaders disrepsectful comments got a reaction from me he said and is doing things that offend me.

I too am sorry about your uncle, I am sorry for everyone who had to die in Cyprus in the name of ENOSIS, it should never have been started in the first place and like I said beofre "who knows, maybe we would still be living in peace."

I have never denied your right to live in any part of Cyprus, I have denied your freedom to move in Cyprus I have never denied your right to your land in Lemesos or Pahos or larnaca not even in Kyrenia or Amohostos, you on the other hand have taken it upon yourself to deny me my rights and to top it up your believe that it is okay.

Furthermore in my posts to Zan, I have never denied the fact that I cannot stand the Turkish governement and yes in that I cannot stand Turks, I have not discriminated against TC's based on that fact alone. I want you as TC to share every part and every aspect of Cyprus but that does not mean sitting back allowing you to deny me my rights steal my property and then insult me by saying there are no refugees in Cyprus, We are not willing to give anything in return for direct trade, we will invade kill and behave like savages because we can,

You are a wolf trying to hide behind your screen name "humanist". I asked you twice if you would fight for my right to call myself a Turkish Cypriot, you didn't even answer. That can only mean that you do want to deny me my right and you are discriminating against me and all Turkish Cypriots.

[boomerang]

tricked by the eu
tricked by theun
cheated by the british
isthere a pattern
in turkey's
external affairs?

you are wrong repulse warrior everyone loves a turkey


especially when

[Viewpoint]

humanist

What happened to me is that I heard your leader on tv. and I have become angry. he clearly said there are no refugees, my grandmother left her home with only the clothes she was weraing, I woke up one morning to find over 30 refugees in our home, my uncle was killed by the Turkish army,

As I said before I am very sorry about your uncle but what Talat was saying is that the generation are changing and children of dead refugees will no longer be refugees.

We must never forget both sides suffered, but try to blame those that caused all this, those first bastards that followed their own agenda to give Cyprus to Greece.

I listen to your leader and I feel sick his face say i am an eoka man I believe in enosis, death to all TCs and Turks...

i have no right to return to my country,

You do Cyprus is 63% of the island and you can also travel and stay in the 37% now called the TRNC.

you have every right in Cyprus including the right of return

You are right I can go live in south Cyprus where there is a GC state run by GCs for GCs, I am not a GC.

I want mt inheritance but you say i can not have it. respect goes two ways this is my lifetime unlike you I do not go back to ancient times these are issues that have affected me since I was 6 years old. that is what happened to me. your leaders disrepsectful comments got a reaction from me he said and is doing things that offend me.

Tell you leader to stop tricking you into believing you will all go back to how it was, and negotiate in goodfaith a comprehensive solution making compromises and not just demanding and dictating to us who are their equal partners not just another minority they can push around and bully.

I have never denied your right to live in any part of Cyprus, I have denied your freedom to move in Cyprus I have never denied your right to your land in Lemesos or Pahos or larnaca not even in Kyrenia or Amohostos, you on the other hand have taken it upon yourself to deny me my rights and to top it up your believe that it is okay.

1963 to 1974 TCs were denied many rights, you have to acknowledge this to understand why we are so mistrusting of GC intentions. You to can get as many right as you wish within the framework of a comprehensive solution just like I can get the right to my land in the south which is denied me even today.

I cannot stand the Turkish governement and yes in that I cannot stand Turks,

Isnt this discrimination? is it for what they did to GCs, the shoudl we feel the same about GCs and what they did to us?

I want you as TC to share every part and every aspect of Cyprus but that does not mean sitting back allowing you to deny me my rights steal my property and then insult me by saying there are no refugees in Cyprus, We are not willing to give anything in return for direct trade, we will invade kill and behave like savages because we can,

You want us to share as long as you are in charge and make the rules, if you want to solve matters go to your despot leaders and tell the to propose a solution in place of what they rejected.

If you attack then we will respond like we have always done, its called retaliation and our right to fight back in times of danger with all our might and ferocity. So the Turkish army does serve its purpose or you guys would have attacked many years ago, that makes my respect for the army even stronger.

Any responses humanist?