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IS THIS ONE OF THE GREATEST SONGS EVER WRITTEN ?

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Postby webbo » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:00 pm

Boumboulina wrote:I like this song. We must listen to it more.


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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:29 pm

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free_cyprus wrote:if you understand what i mean by the thread is this one of the greatest songs ever writen as i have stated, it shares the same theme and it speaks the same language and it dilivers the same message these two songs
in order to understand it you will have to look a little deeper in its meaning and message

Much depends on how you define 'a good song', if you'r looking for a message see Bob Dylan's reportoire or Neil Young (Neddle & The Damage Done etc), for feel good factor early Lennon & McCartney.
"I believe the children are our future" is a good commercial song with two good hook lines in the chorus as was the Dolly Parton song that Whitney also had a very big hit with, once again strong hook line; but I don't think that either will become a classic.
As a performing musician for some 45 years I find that songs don't need to have a message or be meaningful to be labled good, there are so many songs, instrumentals, jazz, big band, classical pieces etc that I have performed down the years; far too many to single one out as the best.


not interested in bob dylon, but if your talking about leanord cohen then your talking about serious lyrics
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Postby RichardB » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:22 pm

free_cyprus wrote:
Southerner wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:if you understand what i mean by the thread is this one of the greatest songs ever writen as i have stated, it shares the same theme and it speaks the same language and it dilivers the same message these two songs
in order to understand it you will have to look a little deeper in its meaning and message

Much depends on how you define 'a good song', if you'r looking for a message see Bob Dylan's reportoire or Neil Young (Neddle & The Damage Done etc), for feel good factor early Lennon & McCartney.
"I believe the children are our future" is a good commercial song with two good hook lines in the chorus as was the Dolly Parton song that Whitney also had a very big hit with, once again strong hook line; but I don't think that either will become a classic.
As a performing musician for some 45 years I find that songs don't need to have a message or be meaningful to be labled good, there are so many songs, instrumentals, jazz, big band, classical pieces etc that I have performed down the years; far too many to single one out as the best.


not interested in bob dylon, but if your talking about leanord cohen then your talking about serious lyrics


Now we are talking about a real wordsmith I have all his albums starting from 'Songs from a room' onwards to today

Have you read any of his poetry?

'Spice box of earth' absolutely wonderful

I did however have a problem reading his novels, There was one if I remember 'Catherine Tekawitha' or something like that about an Indian Princess which I found a very difficult read

Maybe I should try it again now I'm older and hopefully wiser!!

Bird on the wire

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I forgot just how beautiful they were...

Thanks for the reminder free_cyprus
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:13 pm

RichardB wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:
Southerner wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:if you understand what i mean by the thread is this one of the greatest songs ever writen as i have stated, it shares the same theme and it speaks the same language and it dilivers the same message these two songs
in order to understand it you will have to look a little deeper in its meaning and message

Much depends on how you define 'a good song', if you'r looking for a message see Bob Dylan's reportoire or Neil Young (Neddle & The Damage Done etc), for feel good factor early Lennon & McCartney.
"I believe the children are our future" is a good commercial song with two good hook lines in the chorus as was the Dolly Parton song that Whitney also had a very big hit with, once again strong hook line; but I don't think that either will become a classic.
As a performing musician for some 45 years I find that songs don't need to have a message or be meaningful to be labled good, there are so many songs, instrumentals, jazz, big band, classical pieces etc that I have performed down the years; far too many to single one out as the best.


not interested in bob dylon, but if your talking about leanord cohen then your talking about serious lyrics


Now we are talking about a real wordsmith I have all his albums starting from 'Songs from a room' onwards to today

Have you read any of his poetry?

'Spice box of earth' absolutely wonderful

I did however have a problem reading his novels, There was one if I remember 'Catherine Tekawitha' or something like that about an Indian Princess which I found a very difficult read

Maybe I should try it again now I'm older and hopefully wiser!!

Bird on the wire

Suzanne

New skin for the old Ceremony

I forgot just how beautiful they were...

Thanks for the reminder free_cyprus


i discovered leanord cohen twenty years ago and i went to see him at royal albert hall the guy is in a class of his own theres been about three tribute albums made to him by some of the biggest singers in the world
incliding sting elton john , billy joel jenifer warnes,

i love the songs,
joan of arc
famous blue raincoat
bird on a wire
ballad of absent mare
the future
waiting for the miracle

and many many more the guy is amazing
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Postby Southerner » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:53 pm

free_cyprus wrote:not interested in bob dylon, but if your talking about leanord cohen then your talking about serious lyrics


The saddest people regarding music are the blinkered musical snobs, as I've shown by the immensely varying genres of music that I've played down the years I never say one is better than the other, I have my own preferences gaining just as much satisfaction performing the '1812 Overture as the 'Beach Boys' 'Good Vibrations', the attached shot is of the venue for our 1967 concert at the Curium Ampitheatre where the programme consisted of the '1812' and 'La Traviata' plus several lighter pieces.
The next gig after Curium was 60s Rock at the 'Istanbul Bar' in Limassol

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I guess I'm luckier than most people at least I've got to play much of the music that I like instead of just listening to it.
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:20 pm

Southerner wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:not interested in bob dylon, but if your talking about leanord cohen then your talking about serious lyrics


The saddest people regarding music are the blinkered musical snobs, as I've shown by the immensely varying genres of music that I've played down the years I never say one is better than the other, I have my own preferences gaining just as much satisfaction performing the '1812 Overture as the 'Beach Boys' 'Good Vibrations', the attached shot is of the venue for our 1967 concert at the Curium Ampitheatre where the programme consisted of the '1812' and 'La Traviata' plus several lighter pieces.
The next gig after Curium was 60s Rock at the 'Istanbul Bar' in Limassol

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I guess I'm luckier than most people at least I've got to play much of the music that I like instead of just listening to it.


i love all kinds of music from beethoven fur elis moonlight sonata to pavaroti singing carusu, i enjoy loads of spanish music to that i dont understnd a word whey are saying liek cumbias salsa besonova fleminco but i do have my preferances and dylon is one of the preferances i have of not enjoying his music and yet many claim him to be genius
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Postby The Microphone » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:21 pm

free_cyprus wrote:you certainly said a mouthfull byt the song was actualy written for the boxer muhhamed ali for the film the greatest and whitney houston done a cover version


I did say a mouthfull........ and it's still commercial banal drivel irrespective of who it was penned for.....

I'll repeat this (like you do a chorus).......you asked for an opinion and you got one..... :-)
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:29 pm

The Microphone wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:you certainly said a mouthfull byt the song was actualy written for the boxer muhhamed ali for the film the greatest and whitney houston done a cover version


I did say a mouthfull........ and it's still commercial banal drivel irrespective of who it was penned for.....

I'll repeat this (like you do a chorus).......you asked for an opinion and you got one..... :-)


i certainly did thank you
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Postby The Microphone » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:36 pm

No problem friend! :-)
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