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[Viewpoint]

You are all constantly arguing the same issues back and forth, going around in circles.
Its clear that we cannot resolve our differences , because any gain for Turkish Cypriots is considered a loss for Greeks Cypriots and visa versa and therefore we are unable to meet on common ground.
Division would bring an end to all these arguements and differences, that we never seem to resolve. What was lost in 1974 by both communities was the price paid by all Cypriots to live in peace with no inter community killings and political domination games of one community over the other.
No more negotiations, no more you did this I did that, no more arguements etc etc We dont want anything from Southern Cyprus, (stop healthcare, ids, jobs, there are enough Sri Lankens to fill these jobs ) just let us alone to do our own thing.

What does everyone think, time to let go and move on????

[Agios Amvrosios]

Thats unlikely to happen either.

If that was to happen then every ethnic minority in every country would try to launch a land grab-based break away statelet.

[Viewpoint]

Think we are slightly a bit more that that, dont you?? (if those statelets you mention can attain their own country, even if it is only recognised by one country then they can wait their turn we have waited 30 years) and the division would hopefully be with your blessing.
If we cant agree on anything then surely we have to say enough is enough we cannot unite and move on our own seperate ways.

[Piratis]

just let us alone to do our own thing.

You want to do your "own thing" with the land you took from us in 74? I am sorry, but thats not your "own" at all.

However, if it is impossible to live together, I would personally agree if you keep 18% (not 19%) and you return the rest.

[Piratis]

Think we are slightly a bit more that that, dont you??

Not just a bit more, but a lot more. We are talking about the whole Turkish army that you have behind you. So I agree that not many "numerically less" communities would be able to do such thing.

[Viewpoint]

It would be much easier to agree a percentage and distribution of land, I think the majority of Turkish Cypriots would think positvely towards this type of solution because they have lost their momentum and would vote no if another referendum came up on Annan 6 due to the Greek Cypriots No on Annan 5 and the negative and belittling stance they adopt on every issue from the us being theives to the ants that are in the north, u probably own those as well.

[Saint Jimmy]

I don't get it, folks... It's not OK to solve it by Annan 5, (in part) because not all refugees would have returned. But it's OK to partition the island on an 18-82% ratio? What about the people who own that 18%? They get compensated? They could've had that, anyway!
And, Agios Amvrosios, would you go for partition, if your land was part of that 18%? I bet you wouldn't. So, why should anyone?

[Piratis]

It would be much easier to agree a percentage and distribution of land

Thats fine then. About the percentage I already said that it can not be more than 18%. do you agree for 18%? (The TC population in 74). If you don't this is just another dead end path.

[Piratis]

With Annan plan many wouldn't be able to return as well. However the problem with Annan 5 is not only the properties problem. It has 1 million other problems. With an 18%-82% partition, we loose less than what we would loose with Annan plan.

So
Better solution > 18%-82% partition > Annan plan

(> means "better than")

The question is: Can we achieve the "better solution". If not, then an 18%-82% partition is definitely better from anything like the Annan plan.

[Viewpoint]

Saint Jimmy dont you feel its the only way forward because we Cypriots can break world records at arguing and counter arguing about anything.
This would mean Greek Cypriots would feel more comfortale about agreeing A solution that would give them 82% (if this was agreed) of the island, they would not have to work with Turkish Cypriots, there would be no forced burden on them economically, they would be the majority, they would not have to share power and it would be the continuation of the RoC, therefore they could continue to prosper and not worry about reunification.
THE END.