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Dear Alexandros
Thankyou for the clarification, very much appreciated, doesnt that lie effect the way we should evaluate anything Mr Papadop says. If a person can just lie about whatever he feels like to falsely support his arguements then how can we take him seriously or TRUST him and his intentions towards Turkish Cypriots.

For me he has negativity written all over him, and many TCS feel this way.

[Othellos]

A couple of weeks ago, Erolz did sent an email at the PIO and asked for a clarification with respect to Papadopoulos' interview in the Khaleej Times. Maybe he can update us all on this.

O.

[erolz]

A couple of weeks ago, Erolz did sent an email at the PIO and asked for a clarification with respect to Papadopoulos' interview in the Khaleej Times. Maybe he can update us all on this.

O.

Yep the thread / post relating to this is here

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... leej#12383

The update is - nothing. Not heard anything back from either email address. Not a confirmation of reciept of my mail - nothing. nada. zip.

If someone can dig up some phone numbers I'll try asking 'in person'. If that fails maybe I'll try a visit in the flesh and see if I can get any further?

[magikthrill]

I spend two days recovering and not only does another partition thread pop up, it expands to 10 pages!

Could this be a sign or just a coincidence?

[MicAtCyp]

You guys in the thread "Cyprus Problem and how can we solve it" Metecyp and Brother enlisted their reasons why they want to have a solution. Please read it I think it is important. I am sorry but I did not have time to enlist the reasons why the GCs want a solution but in general I would say many of our reasons are identical.
With partition only a couple of those reasons are satisfied. And those reasons are perhaps the most important.
Besides, having two separate states in such a small place will be a disaster. it's called problems between neighbouring Countries. Competition in everything. A constant weeping of the other state that the other state did this and is unfair. Example:Lower and lower prices for tourists. More and more military bases to the Americans to get their support. More and more import of cheap labour to enable the capitalists keep their earnings from the competition of the other state.And suddenly one day Asil Zenith builds a nuclear power station at CyproTurk and sells electricity for peanuts to the CyproGreeks. Then after a while he shuts it off every other day so that the tourists leave their hotels and go to his own.
And one day the Nuke brakes down and we all become a CyproChernobil.
Then the CyproGreek state throws all their toxic wastes in the river going in the Cyproturks etc etc etc the problems will have no end.

Partrititon would be nice if cyprus was a big place. In such a small place is like opening a kebab house and 50 meters down the door another guy opens another kebab house.

Partition you want guys?First see the problems neighbouring countries outside the EU are having.Multiply them by 100. Get it, but make sure you will not cry later.

PS. Don't be mistaken of the disagreements in this forum.We always present oposing arguments but we ALL know what we need to have a solution.

[MicAtCyp]

I would say I am tentatively hopeful that
important progress will be made this year.

Alex, I also have the same opinion.
Also Alex you have an abilty of explaining everything so clearly- I tried above to explain why partition is the worst solution but I am not sure how convincing I am. In case you agree partition is the worst solution can you explain us why?

brain-washed

Woops!! Anyone still kicking backwards?!

what you make of his recent claim that not a single
TC was killed by GC in the priod 63-74?

Let me try to translate this issue. I think he did not say 63-74 but after 67 which means 68 - 74. He said the follwing:
"how many TCs were killed after 1967?"
No reply from the reporter and a 5 second silence.
Papadopoulos thinking silent (10-20 I dont remember but anyway an insignifigant number). Then talking loudly in a spirit of exageration like all we Cypriots do, and answering his own question.
"Noone was killed!"
Papadopoulos was in the Government then.The major problems after 1967 were the killings between GCs among themselves. Even at such a high Gov position it is possible that he did not actually know or pay attention to a few sporadic TC killings after 1967 as the issue of killings was concentrated elsewhere.
No matter what, the argument was wrong. But why should you translate that as something having so deep roots to the effect of he been an intentional lier. What could he possibly earn from such a lie? How could that help him pass his own strategy for the Cyprus problem? It just doesn't fit anywhere..
The argument was certainly wrong. But mental "disturbances" don't start at the age of 85 like Denktash. They start at his age. He is old. Sometimes his mind remembers only fantasies.
That's how I see it, I may be wrong, but if someone else can give me a logical explanation I will think about it. What I cannot accept is that statement might be part of a big and complex plan.

NB.I do notice a lot a "interruptions" in his mind during his public statements. Jesus the man is
having cancer in his vocal cords, he will propably die soon, what do you expect.

This is what I think about TCs, and because what I think
is very specific I doubt many would have the exact same
thoughts like me.

I am among those who share your views Piratis. And I beleive we are not minority, simply most GCs are too confused to get it straight in their minds.

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MicAtCyp

I tried above to explain why partition is the worst solution but I am not sure how convincing I am. In case you agree partition is the worst solution can you explain us why?

Who were you trying to convince that partition is the worst solution???

Yourself??

[magikthrill]

PS. Don't be mistaken of the disagreements in this forum.We always present oposing arguments but we ALL know what we need to have a solution.

Well partition could be a solution. Everybody wants the island reunited but not at any cost (see 2004 referendum).

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Yes magikthrill, the referendum confirmed many things to all of us and really paved the way for partition to be a realistic option for a solution.

[magikthrill]

YOu really have a nack for twisting words around. I still think you should change your name.