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[Piratis]

After the dust settled both communities were able to sleep at night without fearing Eoka or TMT and it has been that way for the past 30 years. Say what you will but I think thats called Peace.

I disagree with your definition, but it is good to know that this is the way that you define peace. Just remember that the balance of power can change, and that your kind of peace can be achieved in another way also.

[Viewpoint]

Dear boulio
We were having our own internal problems with the constitution and people were killing one another and there was discrimination between the communities, Greek Cypriot domination etc ,do you think anything but partition would have resolved all our major problems??

[Viewpoint]

Piratis

Just remember that the balance of power can change, and that your kind of peace can be achieved in another way also.

Could you please clarify??

[Piratis]

do you think anything but partition would have resolved all our major problems

Thanks for the peace operation and for resolving all of our major problems

[boulio]

that viewpoint we will never know? from 1963 till the invasion or "peace operation"of 1974 there could have been more that ample time for a negotiotion.11 years and all that anyone came up with was the ascheon plan?turks wanted partition,greeks wanted enosis and the cypriot people got screwed in the end.you notice greeks and turks i blame both including my govt of greece.pawns in a greater game.but that was 40 years ago time to move on and look for the best for both communities not for turkey and greece or britain but for the cypriots.

[Alexandros Lordos]

On the contrary, the majority doesn’t have the same power.

Alexandros,

do you agree with Tassos that majority doesn't have the same power? How 50/50 was that sharing, giving TCs more power than it was giving GC community?

Sorry Insan, I don't understand your question any more than I understand Tassos's comment.

He said that Annan Plan gave TCs %50 of the power in Senate. Then he added that on the contrary GC didn't have the same power. So if TCs given %50 power, to whom the other %50 given if not GCs?

He claims that it wasn't given to GCs.

That's exactly what I've been saying. His words make no logical sense because of translation errors.

[-mikkie2-]

The article I found very confusing also. It does seem to me to be badly translated. The GC dailies that printed this obvioulsy just took this text and retranslated it to greek again!

[Viewpoint]

Khaleej Times

Papadopoulos: From the beginning, they were planning for a separation. But, in fact, the Turkish Cypriots were the ones who committed massacres and in 1963 we asked to increase the police patrols, but they refused. From 1963 to 1974, how many Turkish Cypriots were killed? The answer is, none.

Was something lost in the translation here??? and why wasnt it denied?? so the newspaper could apologise.

Sometimes its good to put your hands up and admit in this case he lied than to try and explain everything away by its the translations or the reporter didnt understand what hes meant he said one thing but meant TCs are our brothers. Your assessment of this issue when read by a TC is one of making excuses for a man we dont trust anyway even worse.

[Alexandros Lordos]

Khaleej Times

Papadopoulos: From the beginning, they were planning for a separation. But, in fact, the Turkish Cypriots were the ones who committed massacres and in 1963 we asked to increase the police patrols, but they refused. From 1963 to 1974, how many Turkish Cypriots were killed? The answer is, none.

Was something lost in the translation here??? and why wasnt it denied?? so the newspaper could apologise.

Sometimes its good to put your hands up and admit in this case he lied than to try and explain everything away by its the translations or the reporter didnt understand what hes meant he said one thing but meant TCs are our brothers. Your assessment of this issue when read by a TC is one of making excuses for a man we dont trust anyway even worse.

Viewpoint,

You should be reading earlier posts more carefully. I did admit that Papadopoulos is not beyond lying when it serves his purposes, and I also said that this particular point about the killings was an obvious lie.

My concern with translation errors relates more to the overall message of the interview, what Tassos said about federation and majority rule etc., and not with the point about the killings where he obviously lied.

[Bananiot]

I am not sure but I beleive the original text (of Papadopoulos's answers) can be found at the PIO.

Alexandros, do you sencerely believe that Tasos is interested in any sort of federation? Beyond verbal remarks he makes at times is there any concrete evidence to suggest he is pinning his hopes for a lasting solution on federation? What about the calls from his close associates (Angelides et al) to denounce the summit agreements, change policy and look for refuge in the London-Zurich agreement?

I can not accept that such rediculous calls are not directed by him. No one can do this without HIS approval.