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Is Division the best Solution???

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Postby brother » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:21 am

If the suggested ideas above were done i think it would have helped the whole process, why you ask is because all cypriots desire all foreign troops to leave so they feel safe and there is no threat anymore.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:48 am

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You take a small part we take a small part also. The big part is still visible. But like I said it is just a step to show good will. It does not mean we are going to slice the pie and exchange small pieces all the time.


Does this mean this we get a small part of Larnaca, Limassol, Paphos ports???this can also secure goodwill and show we can work together or is it just a one way street???.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:35 pm

Does this mean this we get a small part of Larnaca, Limassol, Paphos ports???this can also secure goodwill and show we can work together or is it just a one way street???.


Typical! You extrapolate this to get more yet again! The point of sharing Famagusta and opening up Varsha is so that GC's and TC's start to work together in a real sense in order to build trust. In itself it would create a new dynamic and lead to ather things.

I could say to you on the flip side, does it mean that we can share Kerynia, share the use of Tymbou/Lefkonico etc, the answer of which would be no!
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:58 pm

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could say to you on the flip side, does it mean that we can share Kerynia, share the use of Tymbou/Lefkonico etc, the answer of which would be no!


Why not if the desired effect is to get Cypriots working together, Im all for it..then we could really see and experience if this is possible.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:06 pm

Is agreed recognised division looking more and more attractive to anyone?? Has the lack of porgress over the past year changed anyones opinions towards a solution???
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:46 am

The momentum of division will increase as time lapses read the following;

Let’s just be good neighbours
Sir,
I have been reading letters from some Greek Cypriots in the press, expressing the opinion that as time passes they realise that ‘partition’ is the best model for the island. I have observed that even those Greek Cypriots who have voted ‘yes’ during the referandum have changed their point of view in favour of ‘no’, like Peter Leonidas who stressed that bi-zonality should be preserved (Letter to the editor, Sunday Mail, February 20).

I think, it is better for the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot people to live side by side as good neighbours. Because each community have settled a way of life on their territories and especially the Greek Cypriots do not want a change in their lives. Most Greek Cypriots, after they visit their properties they had before 1974, say that they have no intention of leaving their properties in the south and settling in the north.

There still lies the fear of experiencing the pre-1974 days. Although my family have considerable amount of properties left in southern Cyprus, they would never go back to settle in the south either. For me, I would never want to take my son to a mixed school or pay my fees to a Greek Cypriot municipality, face the Greek Cypriot police at a simple traffic incident. I do not want to face the worries of ‘have my rights been violated or not’ again. In short, bi-zonality and bi-communality has brought comfort to our lives. As long as both peoples know that, after visiting, shopping or entertaining, the people of the other side will go back, no unrest can be expected. That is why we have not experienced serious problems after the border gates have been opened. However, when it comes to share the rights or within a competitive environment, things may change.

No settlement plans would adress the fears and expectations of either peoples, anyhow. Thus, Mr Leonidas is right. We would better preserve the present status and find other ways of overcoming the problems like embargoes on the Turkish Cypriots or satisfying the property expectations of the Greek Cypriots.

Another TCs View, this is becoming more and more wide spread in the North. The GC stance will take us closer and closer to partition, keep up the good work.

Taken from Cyprus Mail today 24/3/2005
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Postby brother » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:39 pm

I am sorry to say but VP has made a point and at first i dismissed it but now it is gathering momentum, recently at a members only tc club there was about 30 of us playing cards, pool etc. when the unexpected :shock: cyprus conversation cropped up and to my complete amazement nearly everyone there said after the referandum they lost faith in the GC and saw partition as the only real choice, whatever arguement i put up against it they had a better counter arguement like when i said we will build up trust one chap answered me "what with tassos who go's back on his word like they did in 1960, they have not changed" it was probably one of my most distressing nights in a long time but it still stands that these people have lost faith in the GC and see partition as the next best option.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:25 pm

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I am sorry to say but VP has made a point and at first i dismissed it but now it is gathering momentum,


This is a general thought pattern in the north right now and will increase with the wasting of time by the GC administration, which in turns helps prove Im right that recognition of partition for land is the viable and just solution we can agree.
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Postby boulio » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:33 pm

g/c are ready to negotiate viewpoint,are the t/c and turkey,you have presidential elections next month for your community,the AKP is in disarray concerning various issues in turkey and Papadopoulos has said many times in the last six weeks he is ready,he is not going to send annan a letter stating what changes he wants,forget that,if your waiting for that its not going to happen,t-pap set some conditions for negotiotions to start and i believe annan excepted them,whats annan waiting for?Or are the turks waiting to have the british in the rotary presidency of the EU,COME JULY 1ST.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:38 pm

boulio are you serious, everyone has been ready for ages they have been waiting on Mr Papadop whos even lied about asking for restart or was the UN not telling truth????? :oops:
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