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[Piratis]

As long as there has been a 40 miles of sea gap between Turkey and Northern Cyprus our relations will be based upon political, economical, defense and cultural cooperation.

Ok, thats your opinion. Wait until Turkey doesn't need this separation between "TRNC" and Turkey for political reasons, and see what happens. I highly doubt that what will happen is what you hope it will. Maybe you think that after such development you will be less puppet state than now, I believe the exact opposite will happen.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis
With all due respect, my internal problems after recognition would be mine and no concern another country like the RoC. How a recognized country like Northern Cyprus would develop would be up to its people with or without Turkey and what our aims & goals were.

The 18% 82% split suggestion was yours so obviously you support it.

We have never really lived with RoC so we dont feel its ours, you have been the sole users for 45 years, its only natural that you do not want to dissolve it and feel that we should just not kick up a fuss shut up and mingle in with GCs and take our place as a minority.

After 1983 we embraced the TRNC recognised or not doesnt matter, its our country and we love it, so its only natural that we dont want to dissolve it just like you guys. Troops are not a problem for us, they are not in our daily lives and they make us feel safe and secure.

I agree with you totally on the issue that we distrust GCs, can you kindly tell me why??? that distrust for me increased greatly after the referendum and the current greek cypriot stance just increases that feeling that we cannot agree anything with these guys so why force the issue and cause a situation that could be explosive in the future.
We have had enough suffering we dont not want any harm to come to either community, so why not move towards partition as a positive solution rather than force two sides together which do not trust or feel sincerity in moves to unite, we tried so many times and failed terribly. time to accept facts and move on...

[insan]

After 1983 we embraced the TRNC recognised or not doesnt matter, its our country and we love it, so its only natural that we dont want to dissolve it just like you guys. Troops are not a problem for us, they are not in our daily lives and they make us feel safe and secure.

Leftists, including me have never embraced such an exploitation establishment of greedy, partisan right winger's which named TRNC. It was and it is still so-called. TRNC is nothing more than an exploitation administration. Though either it has been a state or administration; if it has been based upon partisanship to exploit its people, both lead to the same point. All of the states which are based upon exploitation of its people are so-called states. Including "RoC".

[Viewpoint]

Surely the progress we have made over the past year confirms that stalemate has set in and that we should all now acknowledge that partition is the viable solution everyone is looking for???

How long will it take GCs to realize this, 5 10 20 years???

[Agios Amvrosios]

definetely not

How long will it take GCs to realize this, 5 10 20 years???

but 51,020 years.

Do you honestly think that we are simply going to sign a treaty or international instrument granting you partition?

In the most simple terms the Annan Plan was voted down by the GCs because its effect was more or less partition within a federal system.

Any solution is likely to be alot less like partition.

Partition is theft and Illegal lets move on

[Viewpoint]

Ill try and respect you opinion Agios Amvrosios, but if the Annan plan which looks very likely to be put back on the table over the next few months as a basis for negotiation is a form of partition according to you and many other GCs, then doesnt this support my arguement that partition is the only alternative and that EU, UN, USA, Greece, Turkey, UK also confirm this fact by stating they support a solution based on the Annan plan?

[pantelis]

Insan said:

All of the states which are based upon exploitation of its people are so-called states. Including "RoC".

No my friend; in the ROC, it is the people who are exploiting the state.....

[insan]

Insan said:

All of the states which are based upon exploitation of its people are so-called states. Including "RoC".

No my friend; in the ROC, it is the people who are exploiting the state.....

No my friend. In the RoC, It is the ruling elite and their bosses who are exploiting the state.

[cannedmoose]

No my friend. It is the ruling elite and their bosses who are exploiting the state.

Maybe you should join AKEL insan, their manifesto says pretty much the same thing, you do have something in common with 33% of GCs after all...

[insan]

No my friend. It is the ruling elite and their bosses who are exploiting the state.

Maybe you should join AKEL insan, their manifesto says pretty much the same thing, you do have something in common with 33% of GCs after all...

Indeed, I enjoy reading the translated articles of most of the Haravgi columnists. It is said that, there has been an enclave in South called "little Moscow". Perhaps I'd like to live there with the GC leftists in peaceful co-existence and cooperation for struggling against all exploiters, cheuvenists, so-called nationalists who are trading upon other people's ignorance.