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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:58 pm

Havent your guys already achieved this through the EU???
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Postby -mikkie2- » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:00 am

For Gods sake! Greece does not have a say in what we do. It does not politically control us. We are an independent state.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:03 am

But linked into EU, so they do have some say in what you do from farm policies to the currency you use. Its Ennosis=Union.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:07 am

That is ridiculous. How can you say that us joining the EU is the same as enosis with Greece? We are not run by Greece!
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:14 am

See it as you wish, you are in a union (Ennosis) with 24 other countries one of which Greece, that union has laws and regulations which south cyprus has adhere to. Ennosis can be envisaged in many ways, this is just one of them.
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:18 am

-mikkie2- wrote:For Gods sake! Greece does not have a say in what we do. It does not politically control us. We are an independent state.



Greek Cypriot'ss administration have signed several agreements with Greece from common defense pact to economic relations, social and educational relations. Not to mention long before the EU membership.
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:35 am

The responsibility for the handling of our national issue rests with the Cyprus government, which formulates its policy taking into account the views of the National Council and always cooperating closely with the Greek government. The Cyprus government which has a clear and full picture of the situation, circumstances and prospects concerning the Cyprus problem, is in the best position to make the right assessment and decide on the most appropriate way of handling and furthering it. No one else should take actions which adversely affect our policy on the Cyprus question and in the final analysis harm our national cause.
I do not question the patriotism, good faith or national motives of any Greek Cypriot. But these qualities do not necessarily promote a national cause. A mistaken action may cause enormous damage to a national issue, regardless of the good intentions and noble motives behind it.

14.11.1996 Glafcos Clerides


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Postby insan » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:36 am

Statements of PASOK President Mr. George A. Papandreou following his meeting with the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Mr. Tassos Papadopoulos
14 March, 2004

Mr. Papandreou: I had a very good meeting with the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Mr. Papadopoulos. I stressed, as I have stated, that we continue to support the effort of Cyprus toward a viable and functional solution, and we are, as always, present in every initiative to support this national cause.



http://media.papandreou.gr/media/conten ... language=0
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Postby -mikkie2- » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:58 am

So two countries cooperating in certain areas means that one has a say in how the other is run?

Considering Cyprus is partially under occupation does is it any wonder Cyprus needs some kind of protection from further aggression?

Many other countries cooperate in this manner. What about the US and the UK that have very close defense and economic interests? What about mutual interests between France and Germany? Does all this constitute enosis between these states in your eyes?
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:03 am

So GCs just cooperate with others but TCs just run by the others? mikkie, in world of politics everyone has a say how much power he/she/group has. The weaker ones usually cooperates, a bit stronger ones participates in the decision and strongests make the final decisions. Until the your EU membership you were in hands of Greece, now you are in hands of EU'S big boys(Not to mention taht most of them are US's best allies). Whose idea was the Cyprus' EU membership. Who exerted great effort to achieve this goal. Who recently reaffirmed that they were in absolute consensus. Whose idea was to keep Greek national anthem as "RoC"s national anthem? Whose idea was the waving Greek flags in the garden of every GC school? Which "national cause" the GC leadership and Greek leadership have a consensus?
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