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[Get Real!]

Did you really think that I would come and live with the likes of you in a country ruled by your people Greek Cypriots only? You are out of your tiny little mind pal.


It is because of idiots like you, Turk hating Get Real, racist sock-puppet "phoe-nichts", gym training Kiefeas who likes to go round threatening to kill people who do not do as he demands, and many other Turk hating GCs who keep electing an EOKA terrorist Tpapadope as their "President that unification will never happen.

You Greeks and Greek Cypriots believe that you the cream of politics and are a whole lot better than us Turks but in reality your politics suck big time.

Where did your "strong Greek lobby" got you in the last 40+ years? Nowhere, you are still where you were back then, in fact you are worst off.

Where has your "great leader" TPapadope lead you to? In the shit house pal, that's where.

And now your stupid "President" with his stupid political propaganda is getting you all worked up and excited like a little gullible child to believe that you can win because "right" is on your side. He even has you quoting
the David & Goliath story.

And you have the audacity to call me a "nationalist"? tsk...tsk...tsk.

A GR response from the past to a similar confused individual should answer your questions Eric Dayi...

Anyone who denies the very foundations of Cyprus can never hope to be part of Cyprus because to “belong” means to first ACCEPT the family/group you wish to belong to, and that acceptance has yet to come from the Turkish Cypriots.

Similarly, Turkey claims to want to join the EU and yet rejects some elements of the EU family. Does Turkey ever have any hope of joining the EU while retaining these beliefs? Of course she doesn’t.

Many Turkish Cypriots today deny that Greek Cypriots are the indigenous people, deny that Greek Cypriot’s ancestors have been traced as far back as 3500BC on the island, deny that the Republic of Cyprus is the sole legitimate authority on the island, and even deny that Turkish Cypriots are a minority on the island!

Think about that for a moment… if you stumble on basic arithmetic how can you even hope to comprehend the more involved issues? Unfortunately, the Turkish Cypriot community has spent most of its time here fighting against the island’s indigenous people, forever challenging and rejecting.

Challenge & Reject has been the “official” Turkish Cypriot policy ever since most of us can remember and the close proximity of the Turkish motherland constantly encouraging revolt has not helped the situation at all.

So to answer your question, you should not be surprised that you have an identity problem (with regards to ethnicity) and realize that unless the Turkish Cypriot community ACCEPTS some facts and EMBRACES the island’s indigenous people they can never have any sense of Cypriotness.

[Eric dayi]

Eric & Murataga you uneducated little clowns... are these the crimes you're referring to?

OTTOMAN RULE
Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted. Word of the massacre spread, and a few days later Mustafa took Kyrenia without having to fire a shot. Famagusta, however, resisted and put up a heroic defense that lasted from September 1570 until August 1571.

The fall of Famagusta marked the beginning of the Ottoman period in Cyprus. Two months later, the naval forces of the Holy League, composed mainly of Venetian, Spanish, and papal ships under the command of Don John of Austria, defeated the Turkish fleet at Lepanto in one of the decisive battles of world history. The victory over the Turks, however, came too late to help Cyprus, and the island remained under Ottoman rule for the next three centuries.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?f ... CID+cy0017)

I am so glad that you are trying this again GR, it gives me the opportunity to prove your stupidity once again and I hope youdon't doa runner this time like you did last time and the time before that and the time before that and the time before that and so an so forth.

quote]Although their homeland had been dominated by foreigners for many centuries, it was only after the imposition of Ottoman rule that Orthodox Christians began to develop a really strong sense of cohesiveness. This change was prompted by the Ottoman practice of ruling the empire through millets, or religious communities. Rather than suppressing the empire's many religious communities, the Turks allowed them a degree of automony as long as they complied with the demands of the sultan. The vast size and the ethnic variety of the empire made such a policy imperative. The system of governing through millets reestablished the authority of the Church of Cyprus and made its head the Greek Cypriot leader, or ethnarch. It became the responsibility of the ethnarch to administer the territories where his flock lived and to collect taxes. The religious convictions and functions of the ethnarch were of no concern to the empire as long as its needs were met.

In 1575 the Turks granted permission for the return of the archbishop and the three bishops of the Church of Cyprus to their respective sees. They also abolished the feudal system for they saw it as an extraneous power structure, unnecessary and dangerous. The autocephalous Church of Cyprus could function in its place for the political and fiscal administration of the island's Christian inhabitants. Its structured hierarchy put even remote villages within easy reach of the central authority. Both parties benefited. Greek Cypriots gained a measure of autonomy, and the empire received revenues without the bother of administration.[/quote]

So it was the Ottoman who saved you from slavery and reinstated your Church and let you govern yourself without which there might not have been any GCs left in Cyprus today.

Sit GR, sit boy.

PS, there's no need for me to post a link as what I quoted above is taken from the same link that GR so kindly supplied. Thanks GR.

[Get Real!]

Eric & Murataga you uneducated little clowns... are these the crimes you're referring to?

OTTOMAN RULE
Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted. Word of the massacre spread, and a few days later Mustafa took Kyrenia without having to fire a shot. Famagusta, however, resisted and put up a heroic defense that lasted from September 1570 until August 1571.

The fall of Famagusta marked the beginning of the Ottoman period in Cyprus. Two months later, the naval forces of the Holy League, composed mainly of Venetian, Spanish, and papal ships under the command of Don John of Austria, defeated the Turkish fleet at Lepanto in one of the decisive battles of world history. The victory over the Turks, however, came too late to help Cyprus, and the island remained under Ottoman rule for the next three centuries.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?f ... CID+cy0017)

I am so glad that you are trying this again GR, it gives me the opportunity to prove your stupidity once again and I hope youdon't doa runner this time like you did last time and the time before that and the time before that and the time before that and so an so forth.

quote]Although their homeland had been dominated by foreigners for many centuries, it was only after the imposition of Ottoman rule that Orthodox Christians began to develop a really strong sense of cohesiveness. This change was prompted by the Ottoman practice of ruling the empire through millets, or religious communities. Rather than suppressing the empire's many religious communities, the Turks allowed them a degree of automony as long as they complied with the demands of the sultan. The vast size and the ethnic variety of the empire made such a policy imperative. The system of governing through millets reestablished the authority of the Church of Cyprus and made its head the Greek Cypriot leader, or ethnarch. It became the responsibility of the ethnarch to administer the territories where his flock lived and to collect taxes. The religious convictions and functions of the ethnarch were of no concern to the empire as long as its needs were met.

In 1575 the Turks granted permission for the return of the archbishop and the three bishops of the Church of Cyprus to their respective sees. They also abolished the feudal system for they saw it as an extraneous power structure, unnecessary and dangerous. The autocephalous Church of Cyprus could function in its place for the political and fiscal administration of the island's Christian inhabitants. Its structured hierarchy put even remote villages within easy reach of the central authority. Both parties benefited. Greek Cypriots gained a measure of autonomy, and the empire received revenues without the bother of administration.

So it was the Ottoman who saved you from slavery and reinstated your Church and let you govern yourself without which there might not have been any GCs left in Cyprus today.

Sit GR, sit boy.

PS, there's no need for me to post a link as what I quoted above is taken from the same link that GR so kindly supplied. Thanks GR.

Only a very sick individual could possibly ever see good from so much barbarity and evil. If killing people by the thousands is your idea of "saving them from slavery" then why do you so often complain about the Akritas plan which would have allegedly and paradoxically, according to your logic, saved your sorry arses branacle brains?

[Eric dayi]

Did you really think that I would come and live with the likes of you in a country ruled by your people Greek Cypriots only? You are out of your tiny little mind pal.


It is because of idiots like you, Turk hating Get Real, racist sock-puppet "phoe-nichts", gym training Kiefeas who likes to go round threatening to kill people who do not do as he demands, and many other Turk hating GCs who keep electing an EOKA terrorist Tpapadope as their "President that unification will never happen.

You Greeks and Greek Cypriots believe that you the cream of politics and are a whole lot better than us Turks but in reality your politics suck big time.

Where did your "strong Greek lobby" got you in the last 40+ years? Nowhere, you are still where you were back then, in fact you are worst off.

Where has your "great leader" TPapadope lead you to? In the shit house pal, that's where.

And now your stupid "President" with his stupid political propaganda is getting you all worked up and excited like a little gullible child to believe that you can win because "right" is on your side. He even has you quoting
the David & Goliath story.

And you have the audacity to call me a "nationalist"? tsk...tsk...tsk.

A GR response from the past to a similar confused individual should answer your questions Eric Dayi...

Anyone who denies the very foundations of Cyprus can never hope to be part of Cyprus because to “belong” means to first ACCEPT the family/group you wish to belong to, and that acceptance has yet to come from the Turkish Cypriots.

Similarly, Turkey claims to want to join the EU and yet rejects some elements of the EU family. Does Turkey ever have any hope of joining the EU while retaining these beliefs? Of course she doesn’t.

Many Turkish Cypriots today deny that Greek Cypriots are the indigenous people, deny that Greek Cypriot’s ancestors have been traced as far back as 3500BC on the island, deny that the Republic of Cyprus is the sole legitimate authority on the island, and even deny that Turkish Cypriots are a minority on the island!

Think about that for a moment… if you stumble on basic arithmetic how can you even hope to comprehend the more involved issues? Unfortunately, the Turkish Cypriot community has spent most of its time here fighting against the island’s indigenous people, forever challenging and rejecting.

Challenge & Reject has been the “official” Turkish Cypriot policy ever since most of us can remember and the close proximity of the Turkish motherland constantly encouraging revolt has not helped the situation at all.

So to answer your question, you should not be surprised that you have an identity problem (with regards to ethnicity) and realize that unless the Turkish Cypriot community ACCEPTS some facts and EMBRACES the island’s indigenous people they can ever have any sense of Cypriotness.

And I told you before, it is not I who has identity problems or is ashamed of his race and ancestors, it is you GR and the likes of you who have abandoned his race and his ancestors.

I still for the life of me can't understand how people could feel so ashamed
as to betray their own people and race and disown their ancestors.

Shame, shame on you Greek Cypriots who think like GR does.

Good night GR, pyro and other war mongers, sleep tight and try not to dream too much of war, because if you get scared, your bed might become a little wet.

[free_cyprus]

the only thing i willl ever except and ever will be exceptable to me and my conscious and subconscious mind is when we refer to cyprus and cypriots they are greek speaking and turkish speaking,

all the talk about being greeks and turks i will never except, and it goes against everything i hold dear about cyprus

[humanist]

GR I am very impressed with your post above.

[miltiades]

MURATAGA THE CLOWN WROTE !!!!
""You have stolen, you have sieged and you have murdered - this is your way and what you took from us is all you have if you have anything. The political interets of some are aligned with you and let you get away with your crimes. But I assure you the tide is shifting... sit back and enjoy the show ""
What a blithering blind individual , it is precisely stupid comments such as these that expose the stupidity of some.
Listen you plonker 200 thousand refugees in their own country and you have the audacity to accuse them of stealing !!! Stealing what , bloody doors and windows and household goods loaded on boats and shipped back to the starving Anatolians ???
The Turkish Cypriots are not repressented by your views , they are decent , honest , logical people who consider themselves as Cypriots first and are not blinded by the garbage you post .

[humanist]

Wow Miltiades, well done,
AV

Their in invading army made my grandmother a refugee with only a change of clothes and killed her son who was not even 18. Thanx for letting him have it


Oh and he mocked me among his other mates at founding out that my uncle was one of the missing persons.

[Boumboulina]

Wow Miltiades, well done,
AV

Their in invading army made my grandmother a refugee with only a change of clothes and killed her son who was not even 18. Thanx for letting him have it


Oh and he mocked me among his other mates at founding out that my uncle was one of the missing persons.

It's big shame Turkish people make everyone suffer.

[humanist]

Boumboulina, not all Turkish people make people suffer, just some politicans just like everywhere else really and their staunch supporters the rest are fine people just like everywhere else, & thank you for your thoughts