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[Viewpoint]

Yep, got to admit that you two( Eric and Murat) are a little peculiar in your approach. Read the whole highlighted sentence again. What are you so shocked about? The application of the acquis communautaire? Characteristics of a European society in Harmony with the rest of the island? In view of these qualifieres Osmosis has the meaning of constant contact and communication, not assimilation. You guys were obviously not very good at high school biology. Effortless in this case means not forced, without pressure. And he already outlined the solution as bizonal and federal in his opening paragraph. In short you are deliberately distorting the meaning.

I am no fan of Pap, but not too happy to be fed propaganda either.

How meaningful is a man`s word for bicommunal bizonal federation when he openly admits his agenda for assimilation? There is no problem that we improve more towards a European society but I see no need that we have to be assimilated/absorbed by a community that tried to annihilate and tries to dominate us.

The problem is that we have never been able to persuade the TCs to assimilate and be an effective part of the RoC hence the partition we face today. It's your reluctance to integrate that has messed things up and we are having to make huge sacrifices to please the TC's the whole time. You are spoilt and selfish. You need to learn to accept compromise.

No one has ever tried to "dominate" the TCs in the RoC. They had more than their fair share of power. You are just reflecting your current state of unease because you are NOW dominated by Turkey.

Like to clarify these sweeping statements? if you can. What was 1963 to 1974?

1963 to 1974 was our struggle to defend ourselves against the constant onslaught of TCs wanting partition . . . proof being that they now have what they kept fighting and killing us for during that period.

The huge sacrifices are the resources the TCs still use up, not just utilities, but diplomatic efforts that constantly make them the centre of attention when we should be concentrating on the higher things in life. The TCs are behaving like the disruptive schoolboy that always wants the teacher's attention. Consequently every-ones progress is suspended.

Rest my case, your comments confirm your own ignorance and brain washed approach that we get you nowhere.

Resting your nutcase?

Such petulance is again proof that TCs are so full of their own importance that they go off in a huff as soon as someone does not accept their bleatings.

Shut yourselves off in the north and stew!

You are lost case, theres no need to debate with you as your comments confirm how misguided you are and there noway you will accept anything put forward, so why bother you can stew in your own ignorance and that will insure this island will stay divided.

You do NOT debate VP.

Kifeas has asked you questions above and you refuse to give an answer. When you asked me to clarify my points above, I DID. When you don't like what you hear, you just make an excuse to depart.

You do NOT debate VP. You bleat like a sheep.

Why do you say I am misguided?. . .

. . . because I am not guided by Turkey?

Enjoy your time in the Sun with your motherland because we ARE reclaiming our island.

You are entitled to your opinion, keep up the good with your reclaiming the whole island, its taken you 47 years to get to this point another 3852+++ and you might just get to tellyour people of your great loss which was the fruits of your own greed.

[humanist]

VP

Lots of bullshit you GCs are throwing around dont change zilch, the fact is we are divided and will never unite unless we get a fair deal, the rest of the hype you people churn out does nothing but harden the TCs view for partition, keep up the good work you are losing the support of those who were staunch supporters of unificaiton, even they are saying maybe we are better off as we are.

VP the latest media reports and in action of your separatist leader are provin that the Turkish speaking Cypriots are powerless in the whole Cypro, Turkey rules the roost mate and you are right there will not be uniifcation till the fat lady sings and that fat lady is called Turkey.

To this end in essence the pro unification supporters you proclaim do not have any power to change the Cypro. The fact that Talat has gone back on his agreement under the Turkish direction indicates that papadopoulos has been right in not wanting to waste his time talking to someone who is not capable of making decisions to support and lead his people toward a sustainable political situation.

I have also read quite a lot on the rally's that took place to get rid of Denktas and I belive those responsible for organising such an event will lead Cyprus to unification at the next critical point of Cyprus development, whatever the next critical point will be.

As I mentioned in a previous posts I have no doubt that Cyprus will be unified naturally within the next ten - fifteen years. Confidence is building my friend and whilst you challenged me last week about a similar point that I made, its only been four years. Give it a few more and your young will be claiming back their homelands in Paphos and Larnaca and Lemesos. Why should they not if they can sell a plot for hundrtets of thousand of pounds and be able to financially support their families, why would they continue to live in a military state where they are suppressed/ Perhaps the biggets mistake made by the trnc is to open the crossing points. You have given them a taste of freedom and they will take it, and they can.

[phoenix]

Yep, got to admit that you two( Eric and Murat) are a little peculiar in your approach. Read the whole highlighted sentence again. What are you so shocked about? The application of the acquis communautaire? Characteristics of a European society in Harmony with the rest of the island? In view of these qualifieres Osmosis has the meaning of constant contact and communication, not assimilation. You guys were obviously not very good at high school biology. Effortless in this case means not forced, without pressure. And he already outlined the solution as bizonal and federal in his opening paragraph. In short you are deliberately distorting the meaning.

I am no fan of Pap, but not too happy to be fed propaganda either.

How meaningful is a man`s word for bicommunal bizonal federation when he openly admits his agenda for assimilation? There is no problem that we improve more towards a European society but I see no need that we have to be assimilated/absorbed by a community that tried to annihilate and tries to dominate us.

The problem is that we have never been able to persuade the TCs to assimilate and be an effective part of the RoC hence the partition we face today. It's your reluctance to integrate that has messed things up and we are having to make huge sacrifices to please the TC's the whole time. You are spoilt and selfish. You need to learn to accept compromise.

No one has ever tried to "dominate" the TCs in the RoC. They had more than their fair share of power. You are just reflecting your current state of unease because you are NOW dominated by Turkey.

Like to clarify these sweeping statements? if you can. What was 1963 to 1974?

1963 to 1974 was our struggle to defend ourselves against the constant onslaught of TCs wanting partition . . . proof being that they now have what they kept fighting and killing us for during that period.

The huge sacrifices are the resources the TCs still use up, not just utilities, but diplomatic efforts that constantly make them the centre of attention when we should be concentrating on the higher things in life. The TCs are behaving like the disruptive schoolboy that always wants the teacher's attention. Consequently every-ones progress is suspended.

Rest my case, your comments confirm your own ignorance and brain washed approach that we get you nowhere.

Resting your nutcase?

Such petulance is again proof that TCs are so full of their own importance that they go off in a huff as soon as someone does not accept their bleatings.

Shut yourselves off in the north and stew!

You are lost case, theres no need to debate with you as your comments confirm how misguided you are and there noway you will accept anything put forward, so why bother you can stew in your own ignorance and that will insure this island will stay divided.

You do NOT debate VP.

Kifeas has asked you questions above and you refuse to give an answer. When you asked me to clarify my points above, I DID. When you don't like what you hear, you just make an excuse to depart.

You do NOT debate VP. You bleat like a sheep.

Why do you say I am misguided?. . .

. . . because I am not guided by Turkey?

Enjoy your time in the Sun with your motherland because we ARE reclaiming our island.

You are entitled to your opinion, keep up the good with your reclaiming the whole island, its taken you 47 years to get to this point another 3852+++ and you might just get to tellyour people of your great loss which was the fruits of your own greed.

The Native Cypriots have always reclaimed Cyprus no matter the strength of the invaders . . . and Turkey is just shear numbers it has no real might.
You are just squirming as you make your last pathetic stance, cowering in the north.
The time is coming for you to go or beg humble pie.
We just have to decide whether we sweep you further north or under the carpet.
The clock is ticking for the traitor Turks. Tick-tock.
Toodle-oo Turks.

[humanist]

Hey phoenix, I wuldn't necessarily say that Turkey has no might, she has enough to have kept you away from half your country for over 30 years mate. I think that's might

[paliometoxo]

bye turks you wont be missed

[phoenix]

Hey phoenix, I wuldn't necessarily say that Turkey has no might, she has enough to have kept you away from half your country for over 30 years mate. I think that's might

Relatively speaking . . . yes. . . but only because Cyprus is so small.

But don't forget David was small and he slew the huge Goliath . . . plus many other small vs large analogies.

30 years is minuscule in the great scheme of things.

Besides, I rather think it's the UN that have been keeping Turkey safe from the Cypriots. . .

[Viewpoint]

Hey phoenix, I wuldn't necessarily say that Turkey has no might, she has enough to have kept you away from half your country for over 30 years mate. I think that's might

Relatively speaking . . . yes. . . but only because Cyprus is so small.

But don't forget David was small and he slew the huge Goliath . . . plus many other small vs large analogies.

30 years is minuscule in the great scheme of things.

Besides, I rather think it's the UN that have been keeping Turkey safe from the Cypriots. . .

Man you are lost in Greek myths and sound pretty stupid from this side of the border, feel free to join Piratis who is also waiting for the swing of power in the GC favor so he can claim the whole island and make us pay.

[Viewpoint]

humanist

VP the latest media reports and in action of your separatist leader are provin that the Turkish speaking Cypriots are powerless in the whole Cypro, Turkey rules the roost mate and you are right there will not be uniifcation till the fat lady sings and that fat lady is called Turkey.

Its called working together for the same aims but you wouldnt know anything about that due to your bad track record 1963.

To this end in essence the pro unification supporters you proclaim do not have any power to change the Cypro. The fact that Talat has gone back on his agreement under the Turkish direction indicates that papadopoulos has been right in not wanting to waste his time talking to someone who is not capable of making decisions to support and lead his people toward a sustainable political situation.

He asked for a timetable and I support him otherwise these committee meetings could go on forever.

I have also read quite a lot on the rally's that took place to get rid of Denktas and I belive those responsible for organising such an event will lead Cyprus to unification at the next critical point of Cyprus development, whatever the next critical point will be.

You slapped them in the face hard at the last referendum and their numbers have since dwindled down to no more than 30%. Like Denktas said thank god the GCs voted no.

As I mentioned in a previous posts I have no doubt that Cyprus will be unified naturally within the next ten - fifteen years. Confidence is building my friend and whilst you challenged me last week about a similar point that I made, its only been four years. Give it a few more and your young will be claiming back their homelands in Paphos and Larnaca and Lemesos. Why should they not if they can sell a plot for hundrtets of thousand of pounds and be able to financially support their families, why would they continue to live in a military state where they are suppressed/ Perhaps the biggets mistake made by the trnc is to open the crossing points. You have given them a taste of freedom and they will take it, and they can.

I disagree as views have hardened in the north since the borders opened for obvious reasons and as for the young claiming property in the south well they have already benefited in the north so there isnt much they can claim without giving back what their fathers have either sold off or developed, therwise it would be double dipping, will you allow that and how will get the law cchanged where tehy have to reside in the GC state for 6 months and then make a claim through GC courts.

[phoenix]

Hey phoenix, I wuldn't necessarily say that Turkey has no might, she has enough to have kept you away from half your country for over 30 years mate. I think that's might

Relatively speaking . . . yes. . . but only because Cyprus is so small.

But don't forget David was small and he slew the huge Goliath . . . plus many other small vs large analogies.

30 years is minuscule in the great scheme of things.

Besides, I rather think it's the UN that have been keeping Turkey safe from the Cypriots. . .

Man you are lost in Greek myths and sound pretty stupid from this side of the border, feel free to join Piratis who is also waiting for the swing of power in the GC favor so he can claim the whole island and make us pay.

Philistine
David and Goliath was not a Greek Myth

It's not so much a swing of power . . . we HAVE the power because we are in the right . . . we are doing it our way, peacefully . . . and that just takes time.

Are you starting to sweat with anticipation?

[Murataga]

Hey phoenix, I wuldn't necessarily say that Turkey has no might, she has enough to have kept you away from half your country for over 30 years mate. I think that's might

Relatively speaking . . . yes. . . but only because Cyprus is so small.

But don't forget David was small and he slew the huge Goliath . . . plus many other small vs large analogies.

30 years is minuscule in the great scheme of things.

Besides, I rather think it's the UN that have been keeping Turkey safe from the Cypriots. . .

Man you are lost in Greek myths and sound pretty stupid from this side of the border, feel free to join Piratis who is also waiting for the swing of power in the GC favor so he can claim the whole island and make us pay.

Philistine
David and Goliath was not a Greek Myth

It's not so much a swing of power . . . we HAVE the power because we are in the right . . . we are doing it our way, peacefully . . . and that just takes time.

Are you starting to sweat with anticipation?

You have stolen, you have sieged and you have murdered - this is your way and what you took from us is all you have if you have anything. The political interets of some are aligned with you and let you get away with your crimes. But I assure you the tide is shifting... sit back and enjoy the show