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[Eric dayi]

Murataga wrote:-
We are not a minority. And obviously our history and ties with the GCs is different than that of Armenian Cypriots with GCs. I wonder how a Bosnian or an Albanian minority would do under GCs?...

18% of the population means a minority to me. 80% of the population means a majority. Where the hell did you go to school, or did they not teach maths?

I really don`t give a sh.. about YOUR personal interpretation of who we are in Cyprus as TCs. Minorities in Cyprus are openly stated and adressed with their ethnic names in the RoC constitution. So are the two communities that signed into the Agreements that made the existence of the RoC possible in the firts place. Check the names that exist in these two places of the RoC constitution and come back again.

These people cannot accept the simple fact of life that the TC community constitutes a numerical minority, something the entire world knows, and you tell me there is ever a chance in a million to communicate and make sense with them! How can anyone communicate with them, if no one in the world can speak their language of mind!

You keep calling us TCs the "minority", this claim of your is nothing but confirmation that you also want "osmosis" as your "President!.

Hey, you must do, you voted for him twice knowing full well what he wants and arguing his point ever since which makes it your point also.

[Eric dayi]

Enjoy your time in the Sun with your motherland because we ARE reclaiming our island.

[phoenix]

Yep, got to admit that you two( Eric and Murat) are a little peculiar in your approach. Read the whole highlighted sentence again. What are you so shocked about? The application of the acquis communautaire? Characteristics of a European society in Harmony with the rest of the island? In view of these qualifieres Osmosis has the meaning of constant contact and communication, not assimilation. You guys were obviously not very good at high school biology. Effortless in this case means not forced, without pressure. And he already outlined the solution as bizonal and federal in his opening paragraph. In short you are deliberately distorting the meaning.

I am no fan of Pap, but not too happy to be fed propaganda either.

How meaningful is a man`s word for bicommunal bizonal federation when he openly admits his agenda for assimilation? There is no problem that we improve more towards a European society but I see no need that we have to be assimilated/absorbed by a community that tried to annihilate and tries to dominate us.

The problem is that we have never been able to persuade the TCs to assimilate and be an effective part of the RoC hence the partition we face today. It's your reluctance to integrate that has messed things up and we are having to make huge sacrifices to please the TC's the whole time. You are spoilt and selfish. You need to learn to accept compromise.

No one has ever tried to "dominate" the TCs in the RoC. They had more than their fair share of power. You are just reflecting your current state of unease because you are NOW dominated by Turkey.

And you GCs tried to take that power away from us by trying to genocide us in the name of ENOSIS to turn Cyprus into a Greek island. This is what got us into this mess and what constgituted to the division.

I have nothing againt being "dominated" by my own people but you are ashamed of yours.

The only "huge sacrifices" the "RoC" ever made was to sacrifice (murder) our people for land greed and ENOSIS.

Spoken like a true SLAVE!

We choose freedom.

[Piratis]

Stop your lying, some spoke Greek and not "most" as you claim.

Today it is many, even your Denctash is one of them. Before most TCs spoke a decent level of Greek, and thats perfectly natural if you think that in Cyprus the Greek speakers outnumber the Turkish speakers by over 5 to 1.

This is not called "domination" it is called natural. "Domination" is when you force things on people against their human or democratic rights, e.g. the 3 centuries that Turks oppressed Cypriots, when being Greek meant that you had to pay twice as many taxes and had no rights.

[Pyrpolizer]

To all those of you who don’t know who Dayi is and what his real purpose in here is. Some quotations from the lunatics house, aka Atca

I'm afraid that there are a lot of people who do not understand what some of us are saying. When we say that we don't mind being annexed to Turkey they think that that is our one and only wish even though we make it clear that our first priority is recognition.

Thanks guys,

I'll try and post as often as I can as long as I am not in a great deal of pain.

One thing you can be sure of though, EricDayi will never give up the fight for recognition of our homeland KKTC as long as there is any breath left in him.

[phoenix]

To all those of you who don’t know who Dayi is and what his real purpose in here is. Some quotations from the lunatics house, aka Atca

I'm afraid that there are a lot of people who do not understand what some of us are saying. When we say that we don't mind being annexed to Turkey they think that that is our one and only wish even though we make it clear that our first priority is recognition.

Thanks guys,

I'll try and post as often as I can as long as I am not in a great deal of pain.

One thing you can be sure of though, EricDayi will never give up the fight for recognition of our homeland KKTC as long as there is any breath left in him.

He is a robot slave made in Turkey

[humanist]

Well said Jerry

[Viewpoint]

Lots of bullshit you GCs are throwing around dont change zilch, the fact is we are divided and will never unite unless we get a fair deal, the rest of the hype you people churn out does nothing but harden the TCs view for partition, keep up the good work you are losing the support of those who were staunch supporters of unificaiton, even they are saying maybe we are better off as we are.

[Viewpoint]

Murataga wrote:-
We are not a minority. And obviously our history and ties with the GCs is different than that of Armenian Cypriots with GCs. I wonder how a Bosnian or an Albanian minority would do under GCs?...

18% of the population means a minority to me. 80% of the population means a majority. Where the hell did you go to school, or did they not teach maths?

I really don`t give a sh.. about YOUR personal interpretation of who we are in Cyprus as TCs. Minorities in Cyprus are openly stated and adressed with their ethnic names in the RoC constitution. So are the two communities that signed into the Agreements that made the existence of the RoC possible in the firts place. Check the names that exist in these two places of the RoC constitution and come back again.

These people cannot accept the simple fact of life that the TC community constitutes a numerical minority, something the entire world knows, and you tell me there is ever a chance in a million to communicate and make sense with them! How can anyone communicate with them, if no one in the world can speak their language of mind!

It was the same with Serbia & Montenegro, one was a numerical minority but they had a partnership...my height may be less than yours but this does not make me any less a partner and my say has just as much weight as yours when will you understand this.

I am afraid you are using an inappropriate and fallacious example, when referring to the height of a person!

Furthermore, Serbia and Montenegro are not relevant in our case. The two were de jure member states of an already existing federal nation-state, the Yugoslavian one; whereas in our case, de jure we are simply two or more ethnic communities of Cypriot citizens of a one single and unitary nation-state! The merits of each case are entirely different!

You Gcs have this general knack of dismissing anything that does not fit in with your own goals, well the example I provided is an alternative to show you and Piratis how there are different types a spectrum of solutions which take into account the special circumstancies/history of every country.

[Viewpoint]

VP, can you please tell me what is your personal vision of the future, in relation to the conclusion of the Cyprus issue?

Kifeas we have discussed this many times I thought you would know by now.

Can you reconfirm this, since so many things have been said that I am confused as to what exactly your vision is?

Ill give you the opportunity to tell everone what you have understood about our debates about what I want for a united Cyprus...this will show how much you really take in and digest, or are you so narrow visioned you have understood absolutely nothing.

Your chance to shine here.