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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:15 pm

Btw guys it seems there is a problem for people to log in unless one disables proxies/firewalls.I send a message to admin.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:16 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:I don't care about indigenousness but...


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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:23 pm

GR I acknowledge the TCs ARE CYPRIOTS therefore I don't care if they are indigenous or not...
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Postby Piratis » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:25 pm

Until 1974 most TCs spoke Greek. It is only natural for a small minority to learn the language of the majority.

What is not only unnatural, but also criminal and illegal, is trying to create some Turkish country, on land where GCs outnumber TCs with over 5 to 1, and which was inhabited by GCs for 3500 years.

In Cyprus we have minorities like Armenians, Latins and Maronites, who have been in Cyprus for far longer than TCs, and who are much less numerically than TCs as well. Still those people have retained their unique characteristics, and they are respected citizens of Cyprus, just like they respect the other Cypriots.

Unfortunately the Turks, have not come out of the middle ages yet, and they are trying to conquer land that does not belong to them by means of mass murder and ethnic cleansing.

They have ethnically cleansed the majority of Cypriots from the north part of our country, replaced them with foreign settlers, changed the names of our towns and villages and they are trying to destroy the history of our land by turning our churches into barns and bars, in an attempt to create a fake Cyprus, a "Turkish Cyprus" in the north part of our country.

They will fail though because we have justice on our side.
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Postby Eric dayi » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:31 pm

Kifeas wrote:When somebody is always full of shit, he will always talk shit!


Should you be talking about your "President " Papadoplous like this?
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Postby Eric dayi » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:32 pm

miltiades wrote:They are both a chip of the same old block , they are not Cypriots and would do much better if they faced up to it, that Cyprus is for the Cypriots G/Cs and T/Cs who would proudly remain so. These two are foreigners , one flies a foreign flag and the other applauds.


As always, a childish answer from a little child. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Eric dayi » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:34 pm

Kifeas wrote:
miltiades wrote:They are both a chip of the same old block , they are not Cypriots and would do much better if they faced up to it, that Cyprus is for the Cypriots G/Cs and T/Cs who would proudly remain so. These two are foreigners , one flies a foreign flag and the other applauds.


They are two full of shit dirty nationalists!


At least I don't go around threatening to kill people like you do shithead.
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Postby Eric dayi » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:35 pm

Nikitas wrote:Yep, got to admit that you two( Eric and Murat) are a little peculiar in your approach. Read the whole highlighted sentence again. What are you so shocked about? The application of the acquis communautaire? Characteristics of a European society in Harmony with the rest of the island? In view of these qualifieres Osmosis has the meaning of constant contact and communication, not assimilation. You guys were obviously not very good at high school biology. Effortless in this case means not forced, without pressure. And he already outlined the solution as bizonal and federal in his opening paragraph. In short you are deliberately distorting the meaning.

I am no fan of Pap, but not too happy to be fed propaganda either.


It's your "Presidents" propaganda, not ours. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Eric dayi » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:37 pm

Piratis wrote:I will repeat to those that don't get it: The Turks accepted just the word "unification". They didn't accept the meaning of it. They don't want to integrate or unite anything. They want to keep everything separate along ethnic lines, and create a Turkish country on the land they stole from us by ethnically cleansing almost all Cypriots and replacing them with Turkish settlers.

For them "unification" just means the kind of "unification" that exists between Spain and Latvia within EU. Basically two separate independent countries, with just some association agreement.

The Cyprus problem will be solved only in one way: When the balance of power will change and we will be able to protect the sovergnity of our our country and enforce its laws. Thinking that we can come into an agreement with the invadors is nothing more than a waste of time.

Our emphasis until the right time will come should be to create to the invadors as many problems as possible, to ensure that their efforts to legalize any of their illegalities will remain unsuccessful and to continue to improve ourselves.


I bet you dream of a White Christmas every year too. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Eric dayi » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:39 pm

phoenix wrote:
Piratis wrote:I will repeat to those that don't get it: The Turks accepted just the word "unification". They didn't accept the meaning of it. They don't want to integrate or unite anything. They want to keep everything separate along ethnic lines, and create a Turkish country on the land they stole from us by ethnically cleansing almost all Cypriots and replacing them with Turkish settlers.

For them "unification" just means the kind of "unification" that exists between Spain and Latvia within EU. Basically two separate independent countries, with just some association agreement.

The Cyprus problem will be solved only in one way: When the balance of power will change and we will be able to protect the sovergnity of our our country and enforce its laws. Thinking that we can come into an agreement with the invadors is nothing more than a waste of time.

Our emphasis until the right time will come should be to create to the invadors as many problems as possible, to ensure that their efforts to legalize any of their illegalities will remain unsuccessful and to continue to improve ourselves.


Well put, Piratis. It is important we maintain the High Ground as our strong point.

There are parallels here with the partition of Ireland. Historically, because of manipulated demographics the majority in the North wanted partition and to continue being tied to the UK. It may have taken them a few hundred years of occupation but the process of re-unification has been speed-ed up significantly now . . . probably because of EU membership. There has been a rapid turnaround with the majority in partitioned Northern Ireland now favouring a re-united Ireland. The prediction is that this would happen in the next 20 years.

We can wait and re-unification will happen in Cyprus! And without gloating, we can be proud that we have achieved it as diplomatically as possible, without violence.


Trodos mauntain is as high a ground as you'll ever get. :wink:
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