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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:46 pm

LENA wrote:For those who believe money can buy happiness...did you ever saw anybody dying?

Can money save him from death?


There are literally millions of people dying all over the world because they do not have the money to pay Doctors or Hospital fees to save their lives Lena. So, yes, money can save some of these people if they had any/enough. You don't even have to look at the poorer countries to see this happening, it happens even in rich countries like the USA, UK and other rich countries.

Here in the UK people have died waiting for life saving operations just because they didn't have the money to go to a private hospital and get treatment earlier which would have saved their lives.


I learn from the kids that an ice-cream less than £1 in a playground with your family and friends while you are healthy can make you more happy than an expensive car and a luxury house to the best area and a big bank account at the bank while you are alone in life and sick.


Someone with money is never alone and sick, there's always someone there to take his/her money away from him/her. :wink:

I agree with abserver...being able to see your children (in my case my brother who is like my son) growing up in joy, healthy and strong gives you happiness. I agree with Eric Dayi (are you feeling ok by the way :wink:) that being able to go to bed without fears, learning from others, passing your knowledge to others, putting knowledge to good use, seeing smile on the face of your family and friends, sitting anywhere is this planet and enjoying a moment with a song from their heart etc


Thanks for asking Lena, yes I feel great. I am only miserable when people
try to spread lies and derogatory things about my people, my religion, my family and my friends. Or have you seen me be nasty and 'orrible against anyone who didn't deserve it?
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Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:59 pm

Eric wrote:
""""Thanks for asking Lena, yes I feel great. I am only miserable when people
try to spread lies and derogatory things about my people, my religion, my family and my friends. Or have you seen me be nasty and 'orrible against anyone who didn't deserve it?""""
Your people Eric are I presume in Turkey , is this correct ?
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Postby dinos » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:01 pm

LENA wrote:For those who believe money can buy happiness...did you ever saw anybody dying?

Can money save him from death?


I understand that you probably see a lot of that and your point is understood. But everybody has to die, Lena, money or not.

The time to make oneself happy is before you do. Because nobody knows when they'll buy the farm, the time to start is now.
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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:03 pm

miltiades wrote:Eric wrote:
""""Thanks for asking Lena, yes I feel great. I am only miserable when people
try to spread lies and derogatory things about my people, my religion, my family and my friends. Or have you seen me be nasty and 'orrible against anyone who didn't deserve it?""""
Your people Eric are I presume in Turkey , is this correct ?


Stop being so childish miltiades.
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Postby LENA » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:07 pm

miltiades wrote:Welcome back to the UK Lena.
Unfortunately life without health is part of life for many people . The fact is both the rich and the poor can have bad health , the difference however is that having money can make the life of your loved one a little more comfortable physically and mentally , the ability to provide that special event that can make a loved one happy and content in most cases costs money. Try hitchhiking to Cyprus to visit your family if you are not well and have no money, and nobody will tell me that staying in a bed and breakfast in Heroes Square is as good as a 5 star hotel. Whether we like it or not money is important , very important . Heating to keep you warm in the winter months , air conditioning to keep you cool in the summer , A nice comfortable car to take the family on trips without the fear of it breaking down and the ability to enjoy a good restaurant and above all a good bottle of wine.
I have enjoyed some fabulous meals at small tavernas and have enjoyed some exquisite meals at some of London's top restaurants both enjoyable , which would I prefer ?? Both of course !


Miltiade mou thank you for the welcome. Welcome too after a lovely time there.
Dont get me wrong, I am not saying money are not welcome, I said money are not everything in this world and I was not going to exchange any of the small things for few thousand of money.
Of course I disagree with the people that say live your life like you will die tomorrow, or life is too short or whatever....of course savings and being virtuous is something good. Trying to improve your financial life is something good...I am not saying that if I was offered a job with good money but I had to work a bit more I was going to say no because I will miss my favorite show that will give me a smile. Yes having money to buy the medicine when your child or somebody from your friends and family is sick is good instead of suffering from both...sickness and lack of money. Yes we all going to enjoy a nice car and good holidays, expansive restaurants etc...but we are not going to die or suffer or be unhappy if we dont have them.

By the way let me tell you something...when I was little my mum had an old car and we had to go to Paphos to my mum’s village every now and then. We didnt miss any of our journeys because the car was old and we could hear some funny noises. We sang in the car and laugh with the funny jumps in the car. I was pleased by taking a small thing every time that we went to the shop, our rule was just one...and we were pleased with that. Sometimes at the end of the month we might not be able to get any since my mum did not had money for any chocolate or we could get only one and share with my brother, but we were more than happy with half of it. Now my younger brother gets 2-3 things and he is not pleased. Tell me money makes you happy?

You said your wife is sick, and I am sorry for that. If somebody ask you to exchange your money for her health what you were going to choose? Money or her health?

If you are lucky enough to have both then you are gifted from God. Money do not buy happiness according to me. Juts make your life easier.
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Postby dinos » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:08 pm

Looks like we've got the makings of another enlightening 18-pager... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby LENA » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:12 pm

dinos wrote:
LENA wrote:For those who believe money can buy happiness...did you ever saw anybody dying?

Can money save him from death?


I understand that you probably see a lot of that and your point is understood. But everybody has to die, Lena, money or not.

The time to make oneself happy is before you do. Because nobody knows when they'll buy the farm, the time to start is now.


Dinos we all going to die...is anybody of us going to take money with him?

You can be happy without a big amount of money. I will repeat my self one more. Yes money are welcome but enough to have a good life not rich life.
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Postby LENA » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:30 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
LENA wrote:For those who believe money can buy happiness...did you ever saw anybody dying?
Can money save him from death?


There are literally millions of people dying all over the world because they do not have the money to pay Doctors or Hospital fees to save their lives Lena. So, yes, money can save some of these people if they had any/enough. You don't even have to look at the poorer countries to see this happening, it happens even in rich countries like the USA, UK and other rich countries.

Agree but not when is meant to die. You can save them in many occasions but not all of the times. Money cannot buy the life. You can save though lots of people’s lives. But if you had cancer money could get you a treatment, a surgery, good hospitals good care but not your health. One lady a very good friend of my mum lost his younger son in few second from unknown reasons and few months later she put her other son in the hospital with a disease that cannot be cured. He is in the best clinic, and they have lots of money...what they can do? Nothing. The first was 17 and the other is 25 years old. Lately she found out that her husband has cancer as well. What she is going to do all this money?

Eric dayi wrote:Here in the UK people have died waiting for life saving operations just because they didn't have the money to go to a private hospital and get treatment earlier which would have saved their lives.

In Cyprus as well and all over the world. But as I said is good to be healthy and poor...not sick and poor. Dont change what i said
Eric dayi wrote:[
I learn from the kids that an ice-cream less than £1 in a playground with your family and friends while you are healthy can make you more happy than an expensive car and a luxury house to the best area and a big bank account at the bank while you are alone in life and sick.

Someone with money is never alone and sick, there's always someone there to take his/her money away from him/her. :wink:

Not that they love him/her. They do it for the money. And I dont think he is happy to have a nurse or doctor close to him instead of a wife and child.

Eric dayi wrote:[
I agree with abserver...being able to see your children (in my case my brother who is like my son) growing up in joy, healthy and strong gives you happiness. I agree with Eric Dayi (are you feeling ok by the way :wink:) that being able to go to bed without fears, learning from others, passing your knowledge to others, putting knowledge to good use, seeing smile on the face of your family and friends, sitting anywhere is this planet and enjoying a moment with a song from their heart etc


Thanks for asking Lena, yes I feel great. I am only miserable when people
try to spread lies and derogatory things about my people, my religion, my family and my friends. Or have you seen me be nasty and 'orrible against anyone who didn't deserve it?


lol...yes but thats another subject :wink:
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Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:34 pm

Money = Food , Medicine , Personal comfort , Clothing , Some one to take care of you when old and decrebit , Family provided for , Charity , Genorosity to those in need , travel first class and be comfortable and a bloody good bottle of wine !!
The best things in life are free but you can give it to the birds and bees but give me moooooney !!!!
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Postby GorillaGal » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:00 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
miltiades wrote:Eric wrote:
""""Thanks for asking Lena, yes I feel great. I am only miserable when people
try to spread lies and derogatory things about my people, my religion, my family and my friends. Or have you seen me be nasty and 'orrible against anyone who didn't deserve it?""""
Your people Eric are I presume in Turkey , is this correct ?


Stop being so childish miltiades.


i think miltiade's comment was an observation, in the form of a question. i don't think you need to get defensive about it, Eric Dayi.
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