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[Niki]

I haven't gone through the posts with a fine tooth comb, but the impression I have is that someone wants us to remove any guilt they may have in accepting the job. . .

. . or may want praise for patronizingly refusing it on higher grounds.

The right thing would have been to not even entertain the notion . . .
i.e. . . .have turned it right down, just as you should if "tempted" by a bargain property in the occupied section.

I had made my mind up as stated if you had bother to read the thread before making sweeping judgements.

You give me very little room for making the 'right' choice - accept the job and live with guilt (but have been vindicated by this thread ) or refuse the job and wait for 'praise'. This is not my perspective, this is yours.

This simply emphasises the fact that this decision is not an easy one which ever way it goes.

Niki : I HAD noticed your comment stating you had made your mind up which is WHY I was perplexed as to your reasoning behind needing to know what others would do. . .

On a deeper level you need to analyse WHY you feel the need for approval or a reprimand from others.

I take it you're a grown woman who is capable of making everyday decisions satisfactorily, therefore, use the same criteria:

1. Make your decision and live with the consequences.
2. Declare WHAT you have decided to do and state you exercised your right to Freedom of Choice . . so sod off to us!
3. Or. . . . in my opinion . . . the mere entertainment of the idea to work in a part of the country that is OCCUPIED by a foreign army means you are a complete AIRHEAD!

On the one hand you state you HAVE made your mind up and yet you still say "whichever way it goes". . . .

Based on this fuddled logic of yours, I would never offer you a job! So take the job, it may just be your last offer.

Got to be cruel to be kind

I am starting out in business in Cyprus having ran a successful company for many years in the UK despite being an "airhead" and although I have made my decision I was keen to learn others feeling for future reference as this probably won't be the last time this issue arises. I am blatantly using this post to get a better understanding. This is what the forum is all about - to gain a more informed perspective.

"Whichever way it goes" was referring to the swing of opinion FOR FUTURE REFERENCE - apologies if this wasn't clear enough for you.

Oh and if you wanted to give me a job - YOU COULDN'T AFFORD ME!!!

[Niki]

I have a feeling you are all worried that if Niki takes up the offer she will get to know TC's much better than they have been presented to her up to know...You are worried that she might then realise there is a different side to the Cyprob..

Niki,i have a feeling you have decided to take up the job..Good luck to you..If i were you i would not have mentioned here but hey...thats your choice,hope the negative comments on this thread do not affect your decision..

Thank you Iceman - a well balanced comment.

[phoenix]

- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD ME!!!

. . Yes, you would be an EXPENSIVE mistake . .

Sounds like you can't take criticism! . . .

. . . . so I guess you were going for the approval vote

[Niki]

- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD ME!!!

. . Yes, you would be an EXPENSIVE mistake . .

Sounds like you can't take criticism! . . .

. . . . so I guess you were going for the approval vote

Let me see - "airhead", fuddled logic", "expensive mistake". Yes I can see how this is constructive criticism!

Can't you just post a helpful comment like most other people or is this beyond you?

[denizaksulu]

- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD ME!!!

. . Yes, you would be an EXPENSIVE mistake . .

Sounds like you can't take criticism! . . .

. . . . so I guess you were going for the approval vote

Let me see - "airhead", fuddled logic", "expensive mistake". Yes I can see how this is constructive criticism!

Can't you just post a helpful comment like most other people or is this beyond you?

Niki, you will find that there are a few GCs in employment in the North. I would not consider them as being without conscience. Rather they do have a conscience and have taken up their posts.

You carry on with your decision. Whatever it is , it is the correct one. Good Luck

PS I hope you find out who your true friends are.
Regards

[Eric dayi]

- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD ME!!!

. . Yes, you would be an EXPENSIVE mistake . .

Sounds like you can't take criticism! . . .

. . . . so I guess you were going for the approval vote

Let me see - "airhead", fuddled logic", "expensive mistake". Yes I can see how this is constructive criticism!

Can't you just post a helpful comment like most other people or is this beyond you?

Well Niki, judging by the replies you got I believe you have learned your "lesson" (as they say).

The thing is, I wonder if you have giving your decision of moving your business to the "RoC" a second thought in a wider range. One thing that you have to realise is that you will not only face this dilemma when you decide to take a job on from the KKTC but you will also face the same if you want to deal with customers from Turkey. Therefore your chances of expanding your company is restricted by being forced to refuse work from not only a small country like the KKTC but also from a massive country with a growing economy like Turkey and also countries who support Turkey and KKTC, Azerbaijan to name one. What about any other OIC country, will you be allowed to trade with them?

Of course I am assuming that you do want to expand your company and take a job on from any country you can. But if you do not wish to expand and keep it small then don't even consider taking on jobs from countries the GCs love to hate.

Anyway, all the best and I hope whatever your decision is it turns out to be the right one for you.

[Tim Drayton]

In my opinion you should go ahead. Surely any sensible business person accepts work from all clients who are prepared to pay the going rate. GCs are shrewd business people and I don't think they will let their emotions interfere with business decisions. Even if they dissaprove of you working for TCs - and I don't see why they should - they will still work with you if they feel you are offering the best deal.
There is one technical point you should consider, though. The RoC tax authorities consider work performed anywhere in Cyprus to be internal, and subject to VAT. If you are VAT registered then you have to add VAT to charges to customers in the north. If you are VAT exempt on the grounds that all your work is for clients outside the EU or for VAT-registered entities in other EU-member states, you will have to register for VAT if you work for somebody in the north of Cyprus. I sometimes receive queries from potential clients in the north, but VAT can be a sticking point because they cannot claim it back from their own de facto tax authorities.

[phoenix]

Let me see - "airhead", fuddled logic", "expensive mistake". Yes I can see how this is constructive criticism!

No these are CONCLUSIONS !

You chose to ignore the criticisms because they stung (like the best ointment).

Niki, your surreptitious market research, which you now claim you are conducting, is flawed, since you are choosing the "best-fit".

Besides, I thought you came on with an ethical dilemma, but it has transpired you were MERELY paying lip-service. Shame!

I CONCLUDE with the same remarks as above, only add: improper and common for propagating pitiful credentials.

[Niki]

Let me see - "airhead", fuddled logic", "expensive mistake". Yes I can see how this is constructive criticism!

No these are CONCLUSIONS !

You chose to ignore the criticisms because they stung (like the best ointment).

Niki, your surreptitious market research, which you now claim you are conducting, is flawed, since you are choosing the "best-fit".

Besides, I thought you came on with an ethical dilemma, but it has transpired you were MERELY paying lip-service. Shame!

I CONCLUDE with the same remarks as above, only add: improper and common for propagating pitiful credentials.

It has become apparent that you are trying to shoe-horn this thread to fit into your own biased viewpoint. Nothing you say has any connection or relevance and as you are determined to change this into something other than the original intention I choose not to respond to your comments any further.

[Niki]

Deniz, Eric, Tim thank you so much for these responses. It is appreciated and does help with future decisions enormously.