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Is the use of "United"misleading and deceptive?

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Postby brother » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:37 pm

No its not, the demonstrations by the TC is what convince me that they want unity and peace.

But in all fairness until the demo's we had denktas who did want partition but like i keep saying he is on his way out of there.
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Postby boulio » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:03 pm

But in all fairness until the demo's we had denktas who did want partition but like i keep saying he is on his way out of there.

dektash might be out of there however has his thinking that he has put over the last 4 decades on the turkish cypriots and settlers left also?lets face it it was a lopsidded plan,will the t/c vote 2/3 yes if it was more even handed like annan 3?
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Postby brother » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:30 pm

I think the tc are just fed up of being the lepers in the north and if it is balanced and not chewing them up to become a minority status and the new plan resembles lets say the 1960 constitution then i think it will be a big YES.
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Postby boulio » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:34 pm

cool 8)

lets get cracking.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:42 pm

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think the tc are just fed up of being the lepers in the north and if it is balanced and not chewing them up to become a minority status and the new plan resembles lets say the 1960 constitution then i think it will be a big YES.


I totally disagree and so would many TCs. No TC will go back to being a minority, why the hell did we have 1974 if its just to go back to 1960 constitution and live under GC domination. Noway Id rather stay in the current situation and take my chances, who knows what could develop in the future.
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:46 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I totally disagree and so would many TCs. No TC will go back to being a minority, why the hell did we have 1974 if its just to go back to 1960 constitution and live under GC domination. Noway Id rather stay in the current situation and take my chances, who knows what could develop in the future.

Ummm... Viewpoint, I don't get that. Are you saying that the 1960 Constitution was not satisfactory for you guys? I always thought that if it was good for someone, it would've been for you! Maybe you mean the actual situation, not the Constitution. Because, the way I see it, the constitutional provisions were pretty favorable for you guys. To what extent they were implemented (or not) is not the constitution's fault...
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Postby brother » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:53 pm

viewpoint,

There was not much wrong with the 1960 constitution and the only reason we had 1974 was because of Enosis and EOKA, so i suggest you first go and read it then make any comments as i know many tc would happily accept it with no problem.

And for the record iif i was you i would not fancy my chances as things are at the moment.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:01 pm

Psychologically TCs do not want to back to the 1960 to a constititution that did not function and where we were excluded for whatever reasons. Thats the past and thats where it should remain, we need a new state of affairs that will incorporate our political equality to ensure no community enforces domination over the other in any shape or form. I think the south and the north have to come to terms with the fact that any sort of solution would mean the TRNC and the RoC would be dissolved for a United Cyprus.
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:07 pm

If this is one of the demands made (ie a virgin birth) from the TC side then I don't think it would be much of a problem if the GC demands are also satisfied.

What I'm basically saying if either side demands a lot then at the same time it must also be willing to make alot of compromises...
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Postby metecyp » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:10 pm

I think the south and the north have to come to terms with the fact that any sort of solution would mean the TRNC and the RoC would be dissolved for a United Cyprus.

Why is this so important? Let's say we didn't dissolve the RoC but we evolved it into a bizonal federation enhancing the political equality that you mentioned. Why wouldn't this be acceptable to TCs? We shouldn't be struck with the terminology here, we should look at the content and see if it satisfies us as a community.
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