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[greek.god]

Surprise!
Not all Americans hate Muslims.
Not all Americans support the war in Iraq.
Not all Americans voted for GWB the second time ... or the first time for that matter.
Now, let's dispense the hasty generalizations.

When those high school drop-outs, turned "soldiers", and subsequently proven cowards; for attacking a defenseless 3rd world country, you call the US military embarked on their death and destruction campaign in Iraq did any of them ask each and every Iraqi citizen if they agreed and/or supported one issue or another before bombing them to smithereens? I don't think so!

So do you really think it's important that you point out that some of you "may" not go along with "everything" the US does even though you pay taxes and thus fund such atrocities?

What EXACTLY is the point of this stupid thread? Are you patronizing the Iraqi people?

Get Real; I think you need to get your head out of your ass!! You are the real COWARD...where you spouting diatribes when Saddam was killing Kurds, and gasing Iraqis in Jibril. Or do you find it convenient and easy to disparage America and it's policies. You sit behind a desk read some crap online or in some arcane book and voila you're a scholar. As an ex soldier, I've done more to help people then you ever have nor will. You are lucky you have the ability and the freedom to espouse your beliefs. BTW...this coward has a Master Degree in Homeland Security Management and still pays taxes.

greek.god, I think it is a little unfair of you to launch such an attack on Get Real since you have not dealt with the subject he based his comments on.

The actions of Saddam Hussein PRIOR to the unlawful attack on Iraq are not under discussion, nor should they be.

References to what happened to the Kurdish and other subjects of that unfortunate nation, (gassed by the products supplied by the US incidentally) are becoming an alternative excuse for the murderous onslaught of US and other forces upon the innocents of Iraq.

Saddam's execution was a convenient method of removing the possibility of him revealing the truth behind many of the actions he was obliged to take in order to preserve his own position, whether or not we agreed with them is a matter for further debate, certainly we cannot rely on the information we receive via the media for an insight to his actions.

As we are not citizens of Iraq, we should be a little more cautious in proffering our opinions on matters of which we have scant knowledge.

I am sure you were a brave and proficient soldier, there are many among us, unfortunately we often found ourselves in situations where we were committed to point our weapons in the wrong direction.

In my humble opinion.

I respect everyones opinion, I don't have to agree with it though. My fellow forum member opined that the U.S. was the greater evil in Iraq. I suggested that the previous regime killed more Iraqis than the U.S. has. There will always be unfortunate casualties of war...war should always be the last resort. I may have written off the cuff as I was quite pissed at his comments...I apologize to my esteemded forum member, nevertheless I disagree wholeheartedly with his opinion.

[Eliko]

twinkle, thank you, it is such a relief to engage with a member who does not immediately adopt a 'Fists Up' stance whenever a controversial opinion is posted.

There may still be a glimmer of hope for the world, it may emanate from the likes of we ordinary people, providing we can rely on a good measure of assistance from the Almighty.

[Eliko]

greek.god, well said Sir, you have my respect.

[GorillaGal]

Saddam's execution was a convenient method of removing the possibility of him revealing the truth behind many of the actions he was obliged to take in order to preserve his own position, whether or not we agreed with them is a matter for further debate, certainly we cannot rely on the information we receive via the media for an insight to his actions.

Excellent point. That had never crossed my mind before and now it makes perfect sense.

ah yes! saddam was going to relieve just why he killed thousand of his own people.
the USA was not the ones who put saddam to death. it was his own people, who cheered his exicution.

eliko, you want to know what a real american is? i have written it in another thread. i do not have time to go find it. but a real american is an native american indian, it is a german, it is an italian, it is a muslim, it is a jew, a greek, a turk. it is a hindu, it is an afican, it is an australian, it is a brit. it is a cypriot and a frenchman, a mexican, a colombian, a peruvian.

and most of all, we didn't start this fire.

[kurupetos]

Surprise!
Not all Americans hate Muslims.
Not all Americans support the war in Iraq.
Not all Americans voted for GWB the second time ... or the first time for that matter.
Now, let's dispense the hasty generalizations.

Unfortunately, the US majority voted for Bush twice. Bush supports the war in Iraq and he also supports war in Iran, N. Korea, Libya, Syria and every country that it is not "owned" by US interests. The majority of Americans are either stupid/uneducated or misinformed.

[kurupetos]

Saddam's execution was a convenient method of removing the possibility of him revealing the truth behind many of the actions he was obliged to take in order to preserve his own position, whether or not we agreed with them is a matter for further debate, certainly we cannot rely on the information we receive via the media for an insight to his actions.

Excellent point. That had never crossed my mind before and now it makes perfect sense.

ah yes! saddam was going to relieve just why he killed thousand of his own people.
the USA was not the ones who put saddam to death. it was his own people, who cheered his exicution.

eliko, you want to know what a real american is? i have written it in another thread. i do not have time to go find it. but a real american is an native american indian, it is a german, it is an italian, it is a muslim, it is a jew, a greek, a turk. it is a hindu, it is an afican, it is an australian, it is a brit. it is a cypriot and a frenchman, a mexican, a colombian, a peruvian.

and most of all, we didn't start this fire.

It's at least naive if you believe this

[GorillaGal]

Surprise!
Not all Americans hate Muslims.
Not all Americans support the war in Iraq.
Not all Americans voted for GWB the second time ... or the first time for that matter.
Now, let's dispense the hasty generalizations.

Unfortunately, the US majority voted for Bush twice. Bush supports the war in Iraq and he also supports war in Iran, N. Korea, Libya, Syria and every country that it is not "owned" by US interests. The majority of Americans are either stupid/uneducated or misinformed.

no, the majority of americans voted for someone other than Bush, both times. Bush is a self - appointed ego-maniac.

[GorillaGal]

Saddam's execution was a convenient method of removing the possibility of him revealing the truth behind many of the actions he was obliged to take in order to preserve his own position, whether or not we agreed with them is a matter for further debate, certainly we cannot rely on the information we receive via the media for an insight to his actions.

Excellent point. That had never crossed my mind before and now it makes perfect sense.

ah yes! saddam was going to relieve just why he killed thousand of his own people.
the USA was not the ones who put saddam to death. it was his own people, who cheered his exicution.

eliko, you want to know what a real american is? i have written it in another thread. i do not have time to go find it. but a real american is an native american indian, it is a german, it is an italian, it is a muslim, it is a jew, a greek, a turk. it is a hindu, it is an afican, it is an australian, it is a brit. it is a cypriot and a frenchman, a mexican, a colombian, a peruvian.

and most of all, we didn't start this fire.

It's at least naive if you believe this

YOU MEAN SADDAM IS A FIGMENT OD MY IMAGINATION? he was really spreading love and treating his people fairely? and he is really alive and well? and you call me niave?

[denizaksulu]

Surprise!
Not all Americans hate Muslims.
Not all Americans support the war in Iraq.
Not all Americans voted for GWB the second time ... or the first time for that matter.
Now, let's dispense the hasty generalizations.

When those high school drop-outs, turned "soldiers", and subsequently proven cowards; for attacking a defenseless 3rd world country, you call the US military embarked on their death and destruction campaign in Iraq did any of them ask each and every Iraqi citizen if they agreed and/or supported one issue or another before bombing them to smithereens? I don't think so!

So do you really think it's important that you point out that some of you "may" not go along with "everything" the US does even though you pay taxes and thus fund such atrocities?

What EXACTLY is the point of this stupid thread? Are you patronizing the Iraqi people?

But we are talking about the US of b..... A admin/foreign policy rather than the people. It is the administration sending these soldiers to their deaths in 'Vietnam Mk II& III.'

[greek.god]

Surprise!
Not all Americans hate Muslims.
Not all Americans support the war in Iraq.
Not all Americans voted for GWB the second time ... or the first time for that matter.
Now, let's dispense the hasty generalizations.

Unfortunately, the US majority voted for Bush twice. Bush supports the war in Iraq and he also supports war in Iran, N. Korea, Libya, Syria and every country that it is not "owned" by US interests. The majority of Americans are either stupid/uneducated or misinformed.

Kureptos, first off...the U.S. majority voted for Al Gore during the 1st election...Bush won the tainted Electoral College through the use of the Republican appointed Supreme Court. Before you make accusations, get your facts right. What war are you referring to in North Korea, Libya, Syria and Iran? These are rogue states who oppress their own people in the name of Security. Unfortunately, you are the one who is misinformed. I will refrain from name calling