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[Viewpoint]

I am with Pyrp on this. We all copy/paste some article now and then but this Halil is overdoing it. There are days he can post like 5 articles about some insignificant shit that happens in the pseudo state. He does this just to write "the trnc president" and "the trnc minister" and pretend that they have a country.

This is an answer to the NEXT post: Yes GR, its a huge milestone and I will not ruin it so fast by replying to you

After you visit your optician, look accross the buffer zone and you will see a land where people are living their existence with no fear from the likes of you. It their country now, and you better believe it. It has a President and its ministers. Deal with it. Its a fact. Who gives a penny what you think. If you doubt what I say, cross over yourself and ask them If it is a 'pretend' country. You can pretend it doesnt exist, look carefully, it is staring you in the face. I would like to make you eat your words, but modesty forbids me, so you better watch you language.

Deniz! The entire EU and all its 27 member states give plenty of pennies for what we think, as well as the UN SC and the CoE! Just read protocol 10 of the Cyprus treaty of accession with the EU, and you will see what I mean! See where the standing of the illegal regime in the north is, and where the standing of the RoC is, for this matter !

So what does it change? nothing daily live goes on divided and you cling onto your "legality" so bloody what..no one gives a shit about the GC "plight" and have done nothing in 33 years to help you people in anyway to get the ho so bad Turks out, must tell you something. Never forget we have rights to this island as well maybe the world acknowledges the fact that we have to live here as well and that due to circumstances in the past and today which GCs also contribute to, the best solution is division and stalemate, ever thought of that buster. The current situation can go on for thousands of years but no worries you have all the "legal" documentation in your bottom draw, well done.

[Kifeas]

I am with Pyrp on this. We all copy/paste some article now and then but this Halil is overdoing it. There are days he can post like 5 articles about some insignificant shit that happens in the pseudo state. He does this just to write "the trnc president" and "the trnc minister" and pretend that they have a country.

This is an answer to the NEXT post: Yes GR, its a huge milestone and I will not ruin it so fast by replying to you

After you visit your optician, look accross the buffer zone and you will see a land where people are living their existence with no fear from the likes of you. It their country now, and you better believe it. It has a President and its ministers. Deal with it. Its a fact. Who gives a penny what you think. If you doubt what I say, cross over yourself and ask them If it is a 'pretend' country. You can pretend it doesnt exist, look carefully, it is staring you in the face. I would like to make you eat your words, but modesty forbids me, so you better watch you language.

Deniz! The entire EU and all its 27 member states give plenty of pennies for what we think, as well as the UN SC and the CoE! Just read protocol 10 of the Cyprus treaty of accession with the EU, and you will see what I mean! See where the standing of the illegal regime in the north is, and where the standing of the RoC is, for this matter !

So what does it change? nothing daily live goes on divided and you cling onto your "legality" so bloody what..no one gives a shit about the GC "plight" and have done nothing in 33 years to help you people in anyway to get the ho so bad Turks out, must tell you something. Never forget we have rights to this island as well maybe the world acknowledges the fact that we have to live here as well and that due to circumstances in the past and today which GCs also contribute to, the best solution is division and stalemate, ever thought of that buster. The current situation can go on for thousands of years but no worries you have all the "legal" documentation in your bottom draw, well done.

Of course you have rights to this island, no one disputes it! The difference is that you choose to dispute and abuse our rights, for rights you do not have! You and your patron Turkey!

[Viewpoint]

I am with Pyrp on this. We all copy/paste some article now and then but this Halil is overdoing it. There are days he can post like 5 articles about some insignificant shit that happens in the pseudo state. He does this just to write "the trnc president" and "the trnc minister" and pretend that they have a country.

This is an answer to the NEXT post: Yes GR, its a huge milestone and I will not ruin it so fast by replying to you

After you visit your optician, look accross the buffer zone and you will see a land where people are living their existence with no fear from the likes of you. It their country now, and you better believe it. It has a President and its ministers. Deal with it. Its a fact. Who gives a penny what you think. If you doubt what I say, cross over yourself and ask them If it is a 'pretend' country. You can pretend it doesnt exist, look carefully, it is staring you in the face. I would like to make you eat your words, but modesty forbids me, so you better watch you language.

Deniz! The entire EU and all its 27 member states give plenty of pennies for what we think, as well as the UN SC and the CoE! Just read protocol 10 of the Cyprus treaty of accession with the EU, and you will see what I mean! See where the standing of the illegal regime in the north is, and where the standing of the RoC is, for this matter !

So what does it change? nothing daily live goes on divided and you cling onto your "legality" so bloody what..no one gives a shit about the GC "plight" and have done nothing in 33 years to help you people in anyway to get the ho so bad Turks out, must tell you something. Never forget we have rights to this island as well maybe the world acknowledges the fact that we have to live here as well and that due to circumstances in the past and today which GCs also contribute to, the best solution is division and stalemate, ever thought of that buster. The current situation can go on for thousands of years but no worries you have all the "legal" documentation in your bottom draw, well done.

Of course you have rights to this island, no one disputes it! The difference is that you choose to dispute and abuse our rights, for rights you do not have! You and your patron Turkey!

No Kifeas you still do not get it do you, try to think out of your rigid box, all TCs want is to see the structure put before them like the AP or just like you put forward with power sharing and even I accepted, no more no less, once you realize that we want to be partners and have a say in our own future then you will have solved what TCs want.

[halil]

I am with Pyrp on this. We all copy/paste some article now and then but this Halil is overdoing it. There are days he can post like 5 articles about some insignificant shit that happens in the pseudo state. He does this just to write "the trnc president" and "the trnc minister" and pretend that they have a country.

This is an answer to the NEXT post: Yes GR, its a huge milestone and I will not ruin it so fast by replying to you

After you visit your optician, look accross the buffer zone and you will see a land where people are living their existence with no fear from the likes of you. It their country now, and you better believe it. It has a President and its ministers. Deal with it. Its a fact. Who gives a penny what you think. If you doubt what I say, cross over yourself and ask them If it is a 'pretend' country. You can pretend it doesnt exist, look carefully, it is staring you in the face. I would like to make you eat your words, but modesty forbids me, so you better watch you language.

Deniz! The entire EU and all its 27 member states give plenty of pennies for what we think, as well as the UN SC and the CoE! Just read protocol 10 of the Cyprus treaty of accession with the EU, and you will see what I mean! See where the standing of the illegal regime in the north is, and where the standing of the RoC is, for this matter !

So what does it change? nothing daily live goes on divided and you cling onto your "legality" so bloody what..no one gives a shit about the GC "plight" and have done nothing in 33 years to help you people in anyway to get the ho so bad Turks out, must tell you something. Never forget we have rights to this island as well maybe the world acknowledges the fact that we have to live here as well and that due to circumstances in the past and today which GCs also contribute to, the best solution is division and stalemate, ever thought of that buster. The current situation can go on for thousands of years but no worries you have all the "legal" documentation in your bottom draw, well done.

Of course you have rights to this island, no one disputes it! The difference is that you choose to dispute and abuse our rights, for rights you do not have! You and your patron Turkey!

who is your patrons ?
we can decide (TC's) what to choose, u can not patronise us.

[Kifeas]

1. We have no patrons! If you think we do, then tell us who they are!

2. You should be free to decide what to choose (tell Turkey about this,) as long as it is within your rights, and at the same time you do not violate our rights! And you currently do!

[Kifeas]

No Kifeas you still do not get it do you, try to think out of your rigid box,

Unlike many of you here, I am thinking way out of the rigid box!

all TCs want is to see the structure put before them like the AP or just like you put forward with power sharing and even I accepted, no more no less, once you realize that we want to be partners and have a say in our own future then you will have solved what TCs want.

To get to see a power structure, like you say, we have first to go through a process of examining the real facts and merits of the parameters pertaining to a solution, and then negotiate in good faith towards the formulation of a comprehensive solution. This is the platform the “8th of July” agreement sought to create! And because the two men cannot deal alone with the whole volume of things and issues that need to be sorted out, that is why it is important for most of the work to be carried out by technical committees constituted by experts in each area. Fifteen months have gone since the agreement, without this being achieved, just because your leader things he has or can do all this job alone, through meetings with Papadopoulos, and he doesn’t even know exactly how many the settlers in the north are, and what amount of properties and where each community owns!

I know the power structure I propose can be accepted by the majority of ordinary TCs, as well as by the majority of the GCs and as far as I know even by Papadopoulos, because it takes both sides’ genuine and legitimate concerns well into consideration and is affordably democratic, balance and functional! The problem is that such proposal cannot be accepted by your leadership and Turkey, because it ignores and cancels out the illegitimate irredentist aspiration and nationalist pursuit of securing and maintaining in Cyprus a separate, purely ethnically based, Turkish sovereign sub-nation-state, that will act as a platform for Turkey’s megalomaniac ambitions to indefinitely control Cyprus as a whole, and treat it as its geo-strategic protectorate; in the detriment of all Cypriots independence and self-determination, and in the expense of the GCs’ heritage rights from a substantial part of their country!

[halil]

1. We have no patrons! If you think we do, then tell us who they are!

2. You should be free to decide what to choose (tell Turkey about this,) as long as it is within your rights, and at the same time you do not violate our rights! And you currently do!

İf u don't have patrones we don't have as well. we do our decisions freely. Otherwise we should not vote 65 % YES. for unification of the island. u lost the train mate.
we are not violating any one rights . U are the ones violating our rights.
u are trying to stop any contacts that people are trying to do with us.we can see last examples on the forum . How u were attack to lady , which she was trying to do only business . We are not crying or begging any money from u . We know how to stand on our feet.

[zan]

No Kifeas you still do not get it do you, try to think out of your rigid box,

Unlike many of you here, I am thinking way out of the rigid box!

all TCs want is to see the structure put before them like the AP or just like you put forward with power sharing and even I accepted, no more no less, once you realize that we want to be partners and have a say in our own future then you will have solved what TCs want.

To get to see a power structure, like you say, we have first to go through a process of examining the real facts and merits of the parameters pertaining to a solution, and then negotiate in good faith towards the formulation of a comprehensive solution. This is the platform the “8th of July” agreement sought to create! And because the two men cannot deal alone with the whole volume of things and issues that need to be sorted out, that is why it is important for most of the work to be carried out by technical committees constituted by experts in each area. Fifteen months have gone since the agreement, without this being achieved, just because your leader things he has or can do all this job alone, through meetings with Papadopoulos, and he doesn’t even know exactly how many the settlers in the north are, and what amount of properties and where each community owns!

I know the power structure I propose can be accepted by the majority of ordinary TCs, as well as by the majority of the GCs and as far as I know even by Papadopoulos, because it takes both sides’ genuine and legitimate concerns well into consideration and is affordably democratic, balance and functional! The problem is that such proposal cannot be accepted by your leadership and Turkey, because it ignores and cancels out the illegitimate irredentist aspiration and nationalist pursuit of securing and maintaining in Cyprus a separate, purely ethnically based, Turkish sovereign sub-nation-state, that will act as a platform for Turkey’s megalomaniac ambitions to indefinitely control Cyprus as a whole, and treat it as its geo-strategic protectorate; in the detriment of all Cypriots independence and self-determination, and in the expense of the GCs’ heritage rights from a substantial part of their country!

It is amazing as to how many people there are on tghis forum that have the one and final answer for the Cyprob who claim that it is acceptable to all and then find someone that it is not acceptable to and put all the blame on them...

[alexISS]

İf u don't have patrones we don't have as well. we do our decisions freely. Otherwise we should not vote 65 % YES. for unification of the island. u lost the train mate.

And what was the Turkish government's position regarding the Annan plan when you voted YES? Was it not the same? What about the 30 years before that, when Turkey's position was "problem solved"? Was it not the same for you? Turkey and the TC "government" are always perfectly synchronized, if that's not patronizing what is? If, on the other hand, you consider Greece to be the RoC's patron, how do you explain the Cypriots' rejection of the Annan plan while the Greek govenrment supported it? The truth is that the "TRNC" government was inspired by Turkey, installed by Turkey and sustained by Turkey until today. That's why, after 30 years, they kicked Denktash out the moment Turkey's interests changed

[Kifeas]

1. We have no patrons! If you think we do, then tell us who they are!

2. You should be free to decide what to choose (tell Turkey about this,) as long as it is within your rights, and at the same time you do not violate our rights! And you currently do!

İf u don't have patrones we don't have as well. we do our decisions freely. Otherwise we should not vote 65 % YES. for unification of the island. u lost the train mate.
we are not violating any one rights . U are the ones violating our rights.
u are trying to stop any contacts that people are trying to do with us.we can see last examples on the forum . How u were attack to lady , which she was trying to do only business . We are not crying or begging any money from u . We know how to stand on our feet.

Oh I see, the embargo and the deprivation of 200,000 GCs from all their properties, homes and livelihood, for 33 years now, and the embargo and deprivation of the entire GC community from its heritage rights stemming out of 37% of its country, does not constitute a violation of our rights! In a nut shell, all the ECHR decisions and UN resolutions against Turkey, are not valid or in existence, Halil says!

And which Lady are you talking about that I have attacked, for trying to conduct you?