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[Kifeas]

It is probably Lanate, a very strong and lethal pesticide (used against mice and other rodents,) and responsible for most animal deaths in Cyprus! I am afraid the solution is not to live ones dog unattended outside, or to train it in such a way as not to eat anything, if not given to it by its master!

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[GorillaGal]

It is probably Lanate, a very strong and lethal pesticide (used against mice and other rodents,) and responsible for most animal deaths in Cyprus! I am afraid the solution is not to live ones dog unattended outside, or to train it in such a way as not to eat anything, if not given to it by its master!

http://www.xak.com/main/newsshow.asp?id=35838

they are animals, for god's sake, you can't prevent them from eating something they find in the street--not all the time anyway. and it would be near impossible to train them not to eat stuff like that.

[GorillaGal]

you have to petition the government to outlaw it, and you have to report it to the police. and you have to educate the people. and the pets shouldn't roam free anyway. it's OK to keep cats strictly indoors, they are clean animals that sleep 18 hours a day.... dogs shouldn't be out unattended either. this is a start.

[dinos]

Regulating is the answer, GG, not outlawing it. Lannate does have valid uses. Refer, however, to the contrast between the label information that Devil posted and his seeing people applying it without the proper clothing. Regardless of where the applicator is from - if they're too stupid to read a label and follow its directions, then they are too stupid to use the pesticide. No exceptions. Fining people for improper use is the right thing to do. Subsequent violations should impel increased fines and license restriction, and if that doesn't discourage repeated offenses, imprisonment will.

Stupid question; what's a JCB?

[GorillaGal]

i still vote for outlawing it. any kind of pesticide is bad. poison the rats that the birds eat, the birds get sick and die as well. the cat eats the sick bird and the cat gets sick. there are better, more natural ways for pest control.

and i don't know what a JCB is eitehr, but i think it is some kind of heavy duty digger rig.

[Jerry]

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[THE HIGHLANDER]

It is probably Lanate, a very strong and lethal pesticide (used against mice and other rodents,) and responsible for most animal deaths in Cyprus! I am afraid the solution is not to live ones dog unattended outside, or to train it in such a way as not to eat anything, if not given to it by its master!

http://www.xak.com/main/newsshow.asp?id=35838

Hi Kifeas, you stand 100% correct and the sooner Lanate is TOTALY banned in Cyprus or only available to responsible licenced pest control companys the BETTER !!!!!

[Eliko]

Whereas I do not wish to cause any distress to THE HIGHLANDER subsequent to the unfortunate loss of his pet Wiemaraner, I do feel that a little more consideration should be given to alternative possibilities surrounding it's death.

I have spoken to certain fruit farmers and am informed that the use of 'Lannate' is essential in protecting their produce, it would therefore be unfair to impose severe restrictions on it's use and probably explains why they are not.

As to the 'Poisoning' issue, I spoke to a veterinary surgeon and am informed that the visible signs of 'Heat Exhaustion' and 'Poisoning' are very similar in fatal situations.

Since this particular incident occured in the manner and location as described by THE HIGHLANDER, it seems (once again) a little unfair to draw conclusions.

THE HIGHLANDER mentions that there was a high incidence of similar cases in the same area, if the nature of those fatalities are similar to the one under scrutiny, does it not make more sense to assume that 'Heat Exhaustion' is more likely to be the cause?.

Acceptance of that fact does not indicate neglect, rather it would serve as a lesson learned when dealing with situations where it may be necessary to leave an animal unattended in a car on a hot day.

Much sympathy is due to THE HIGHLANDER, I just cannot visualize a poisoner furtively sneaking through a cark park with a soupspoonful of 'Lannate', poking it through the aperture of a car window, intent on destroying a helpless animal.

It just doesn't add up to good sense, regardless of how docile the dog may be, (most would be up and at 'em).

I wonder if any other member will either share these opinions or propose others .

[GorillaGal]

Whereas I do not wish to cause any distress to THE HIGHLANDER subsequent to the unfortunate loss of his pet Wiemaraner, I do feel that a little more consideration should be given to alternative possibilities surrounding it's death.

I have spoken to certain fruit farmers and am informed that the use of 'Lannate' is essential in protecting their produce, it would therefore be unfair to impose severe restrictions on it's use and probably explains why they are not.

As to the 'Poisoning' issue, I spoke to a veterinary surgeon and am informed that the visible signs of 'Heat Exhaustion' and 'Poisoning' are very similar in fatal situations.

Since this particular incident occured in the manner and location as described by THE HIGHLANDER, it seems (once again) a little unfair to draw conclusions.

THE HIGHLANDER mentions that there was a high incidence of similar cases in the same area, if the nature of those fatalities are similar to the one under scrutiny, does it not make more sense to assume that 'Heat Exhaustion' is more likely to be the cause?.

Acceptance of that fact does not indicate neglect, rather it would serve as a lesson learned when dealing with situations where it may be necessary to leave an animal unattended in a car on a hot day.

Much sympathy is due to THE HIGHLANDER, I just cannot visualize a poisoner furtively sneaking through a cark park with a soupspoonful of 'Lannate', poking it through the aperture of a car window, intent on destroying a helpless animal.

It just doesn't add up to good sense, regardless of how docile the dog may be, (most would be up and at 'em).

I wonder if any other member will either share these opinions or propose others .

lcuky for me, i do not knwo much about Lannate, but i do know there are always more natural alternatives, and as i stated earlier in this thread, using a peesticide for one pest doesn't just harm that pest, but those that feed on it, and those that feed on that one, ans do on. it is a chain reation. so much of the rest of the world can get bu without Lannate, it's a shame the cypriot farmers still feel a need in this antiquated method.
"in my humble opinion." (quoting a friend!)