For those interested,National Geographic HD channel will be showing a new episode covering Helios Flight 522 crash on Monday 10 September at 9.00pm UK time..
http://natgeochannel.co.uk/watch/program_details.aspx?id_program=9496
Air Crash Investigation "Helios Flight 522"
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Air Crash Investigation "Helios Flight 522"
by iceman » Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:19 pm
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by paliometoxo » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:30 pm
they had the tv cameras in my village when we had the funeral :/ my uncles sister and her family died one of them was her first time ever on a plane... naasty.. we where in the mountains when we heard the news... i never saw my uncle crying but he also never went to the funeral.. or at least not when everyone else was there.. thnx for the post
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by iceman » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:22 pm
eracles wrote:i also had family die in this crashis this a new episode or just a HD repeat of the old one?
I believe it is a new one...They have been advertising it for some time...
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by bigOz » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:00 pm
It really angers me to see that people in aircraft get killed for nothing as a direct result of penny saving tactics by the manufacturers of aircraft combined with pilot overconfidence!
Manufacturers of B737s could have incorporated a slightly more sophisticated cabin pressure warning device at minimal cost that would have allowed the pilots recognise the warning that was given - irrespective of how competent or overconfident they acted. Where corporate profits take precedence over people's lives, accidents like these will always be a possibility.
The pilots could have been more alert. They clearly did not do their "pre-flight" checks according to the book and with the strict discipline required. For if they did, they would have noticed that the pressurisation valve was set on "manual" instead of "automatic". They further failed to go over the pre-flight checks once they could not identify the reasons behind the horn warnings. They must have assumed "if we are at this altitude and have not crashed yet then there are no engine problems or unlocked doors = probable false warning!"
Pilots failure to realise there was something definitely wrong with the pressurisation of the cabin, when things started getting too cold is also worrying. If they were alert, the aircraft could have been lowered to an altitude of 10,000 feet or less where the oxygen and temperature levels would sustain life without any cabin pressurisation. Seeing air traffic control lost contact almost an hour after take off and one cabin crew was observed by the Greek fighters as trying to control the aircraft 2 hours after take off, the cooling and running out of air must have been a slow process with older people passing out earlier than the young ones (including the captain who was in his 50s - and missing from his seat)
At times like these I wish I was a passanger in the plane, and made my way to the cockpit before the cabin crew. A dive, lasting about 15 minutes could have saved all souls on board...
Manufacturers of B737s could have incorporated a slightly more sophisticated cabin pressure warning device at minimal cost that would have allowed the pilots recognise the warning that was given - irrespective of how competent or overconfident they acted. Where corporate profits take precedence over people's lives, accidents like these will always be a possibility.
The pilots could have been more alert. They clearly did not do their "pre-flight" checks according to the book and with the strict discipline required. For if they did, they would have noticed that the pressurisation valve was set on "manual" instead of "automatic". They further failed to go over the pre-flight checks once they could not identify the reasons behind the horn warnings. They must have assumed "if we are at this altitude and have not crashed yet then there are no engine problems or unlocked doors = probable false warning!"
Pilots failure to realise there was something definitely wrong with the pressurisation of the cabin, when things started getting too cold is also worrying. If they were alert, the aircraft could have been lowered to an altitude of 10,000 feet or less where the oxygen and temperature levels would sustain life without any cabin pressurisation. Seeing air traffic control lost contact almost an hour after take off and one cabin crew was observed by the Greek fighters as trying to control the aircraft 2 hours after take off, the cooling and running out of air must have been a slow process with older people passing out earlier than the young ones (including the captain who was in his 50s - and missing from his seat)
At times like these I wish I was a passanger in the plane, and made my way to the cockpit before the cabin crew. A dive, lasting about 15 minutes could have saved all souls on board...
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