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[halil]

The Secretary General of the Republican Turkish Party Omer Kalyoncu has said that he does not find the Greek Cypriot Leader Tassos Papadopoulos’ criticisms made against the Turkish Cyprus side following Wednesday’s meeting as surprising.

He said that the Greek Cypriot Side which had secured unilateral European Union membership was playing for time.

The CTP secretary General was evaluating the Greek Cypriot side’s criticisms over the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and especially President Mehmet Ali Talat to the BRT.

Stating that the Greek Cypriot Leader Tassos Papadopoulos’ criticisms over the Turkish side are not surprising, he said the Greek Cypriot Administration by pocketing the EU membership was trying to play for time on the Cyprus issue.

Explaining that the 8-july agreement brokered last year was a 5-point agreement which clearly stated that the status quo was unacceptable and which underlined the need to find an urgent and just solution to the Cyprus problem, Mr. Kalyoncu said President Talat’s proposal to solve the Cyprus problem by the end of 2008 was a suggestion in place.

He also noted that in response to Mr. Papadopoulos objections, the United Nations Secretary General Special Representative to Cyprus Michael Moller had made it openly clear that setting deadlines or timetables was not against the Gambari process.

Reminding that there is an ongoing election process in South Cyprus, the CTP Secretary General accused the Greek Cypriot leader of preventing AKEL from acting freely with the previous coalition government in the South.

Reminding that Mr. Papadopoulos and Mr. Hristofyas had both rejected the Annan Plan during the April 2004 referendum, Mr. Kalyoncu said that both political leaders could not act audaciously as this would result in a lose for crucial votes.

Stating that Mr. Hristofyas’ current attitude is very similar to the attitude he had adopted during the referendum process, he complained that due to the Greek Cypriot Side’s delaying tactics no progress had been achieved during the 14 month long Gambari process.

Asked to comment on what his expectations were for the period leading up to the elections in the South, Mr. Kalyoncu said “We know that Mr. Papadopoulos is the leader of the no camp in South Cyprus as confirmed by the result of public surveys”

“The only way to change this is to courageously work towards a just and comprehensive solution to the Cyprus problem” he added, warning that a failure to do so could put AKEL in a same situation it faced during the 2004 referendum which could result in the election of Mr. Papadopoulos.

Pointing out that the stance adopted by the United Nations Secretary General Special Representative to Cyprus Michael Moller was very important, Mr. Kalyoncu reminded that the Turkish Cypriot Side had complained about Moller’s previous attempts to cover up for Papadopoulos’s mistakes.

Responding to another question as to whether he expected another meeting to take place between the two leaders in the near future, the CTP Secretary General said that President Talat was going to meet with the UN Secretary General in October.

He expressed the view that the UN will propose a new method for progress following this meeting.

[Kikapu]

Sounds like Kalyoncu (non Cypriot name) is throwing a lot of unrelated crap on the wall, to see what will stick and what doesn't.

"He said that the Greek Cypriot Side which had secured unilateral European Union membership was playing for time"

Has anyone asked this person, just what would be the reason for the RoC to be "playing for time".

"Playing for time" for what purpose exactly.??

Halil, do any of you working at "Bayrak" ask questions when politicians make statements, or do you just keep quiet.

I want some answers Halil.

[Murataga]

Sounds like Kalyoncu (non Cypriot name) is throwing a lot of unrelated crap on the wall, to see what will stick and what doesn't.

"He said that the Greek Cypriot Side which had secured unilateral European Union membership was playing for time"

Has anyone asked this person, just what would be the reason for the RoC to be "playing for time".

"Playing for time" for what purpose exactly.??

Halil, do any of you working at "Bayrak" ask questions when politicians make statements, or do you just keep quiet.

I want some answers Halil.

Hello Kikapu; hope all is goign well. Something interesting in your post caught my eye there... What is by your definition a "Cypriot name" ? No offense, just curios.

[Kikapu]

Sounds like Kalyoncu (non Cypriot name) is throwing a lot of unrelated crap on the wall, to see what will stick and what doesn't.

"He said that the Greek Cypriot Side which had secured unilateral European Union membership was playing for time"

Has anyone asked this person, just what would be the reason for the RoC to be "playing for time".

"Playing for time" for what purpose exactly.??

Halil, do any of you working at "Bayrak" ask questions when politicians make statements, or do you just keep quiet.

I want some answers Halil.

Hello Kikapu; hope all is goign well. Something interesting in your post caught my eye there... What is by your definition a "Cypriot name" ? No offense, just curios.

Nice to hear from you to Murataga,

Any Turkish Cypriot names before 1974 is what I consider to be "Cypriot Names". They were quite distinct from the names from Turkey, so now, I can't tell who is actually a TC and who is a Turk from Turkey from just by their names anymore, because I can't separate the Two.

I hope I was able to explain myself clearly.

[Murataga]

Sounds like Kalyoncu (non Cypriot name) is throwing a lot of unrelated crap on the wall, to see what will stick and what doesn't.

"He said that the Greek Cypriot Side which had secured unilateral European Union membership was playing for time"

Has anyone asked this person, just what would be the reason for the RoC to be "playing for time".

"Playing for time" for what purpose exactly.??

Halil, do any of you working at "Bayrak" ask questions when politicians make statements, or do you just keep quiet.

I want some answers Halil.

Hello Kikapu; hope all is goign well. Something interesting in your post caught my eye there... What is by your definition a "Cypriot name" ? No offense, just curios.

Nice to hear from you to Murataga,

Any Turkish Cypriot names before 1974 is what I consider to be "Cypriot Names". They were quite distinct from the names from Turkey, so now, I can't tell who is actually a TC and who is a Turk from Turkey from just by their names anymore, because I can't separate the Two.

I hope I was able to explain myself clearly.

I am afraid you have confused me even more. In your previos post you claimed a name to be non-Cypriot (which requires that you know or have a definition of what a "Cypriot name" actually is), but now you are saying:

I can't tell who is actually a TC and who is a Turk from Turkey from just by their names anymore, because I can't separate the Two

If you don`t know what a Cypriot name is or cant distinguish it, than how were you able to claim that the guy`s name is non-Cypriot?

[Kifeas]

Talat had asked for meetings with Papadopoulos to solve the Cyprus issue, with the end of 2008 as a conditional time-limit or timeframe. Supposedly Papadopoulos accepts this proposal, but unfortunatelly they do not manage to solve the problem by then, or they only manage to agree on half of the issues or parameters pertaining to a comprehensive settlement. What happens next? Does the TC side “call the quits” and declare to the world that the Cyprus problem is "unsolvable" and therefore they are "entitled" to their separate partitioned state, or will they call Kofi Annan again to "cut and tailor" a plan according to their "measures," so that Turkey’s accession road is facilitated once again, like in 2004?

What is the meaning behind setting up such a time frame, i.e. by the end of 2008, when for 30 years there was no such "urgency" for a "quick" solution, but quite the opposite from the part of the TC side under Denktash and Turkey?

[Nikitas]

I can understand Mr Talat's urgency. If the stage is not cleared soon and the status of Cypriot born politicians guranteed in the north they wil be swallowed up in a Turkish mainland majority. Obviously he is in a hurry to get somewhere fast, to safegurad his future. It is purely a reflection, on a personal basis, of a demographic problem that is staring him in the face.

Nikitas

[Viewpoint]

Time frames are necessary as it has now become clear that they GC side is not really interested in resolving anything by compromising, time limits will ensure they take steps to bring things to a close otherwise it will be another round of meetings with no solution.

[Kifeas]

I can understand Mr Talat's urgency. If the stage is not cleared soon and the status of Cypriot born politicians guranteed in the north they wil be swallowed up in a Turkish mainland majority. Obviously he is in a hurry to get somewhere fast, to safegurad his future. It is purely a reflection, on a personal basis, of a demographic problem that is staring him in the face.

Nikitas

Talat's "''urgency" is due to the fact that by the end of 2008, Turkey is obliged to open its ports and airports to RoC vessels and planes, and to also recognize the RoC, otherwise its EU accession process will be frozen or permanently suspended! That is why Turkey's agent in Cyprus is in such a hurry! We GCs would have wanted a solution, not after 1 year, but yester year if it would have been possible; however, the question that needs to be answered is what happens if by the end of 2008, the two sides do not manage to reach a solution! Will they set the end of year 2009 as a new dead-line, or what? For an answer as to what the Turks have in its mind, read my above post!

[Kikapu]

Sounds like Kalyoncu (non Cypriot name) is throwing a lot of unrelated crap on the wall, to see what will stick and what doesn't.

"He said that the Greek Cypriot Side which had secured unilateral European Union membership was playing for time"

Has anyone asked this person, just what would be the reason for the RoC to be "playing for time".

"Playing for time" for what purpose exactly.??

Halil, do any of you working at "Bayrak" ask questions when politicians make statements, or do you just keep quiet.

I want some answers Halil.

Hello Kikapu; hope all is goign well. Something interesting in your post caught my eye there... What is by your definition a "Cypriot name" ? No offense, just curios.

Nice to hear from you to Murataga,

Any Turkish Cypriot names before 1974 is what I consider to be "Cypriot Names". They were quite distinct from the names from Turkey, so now, I can't tell who is actually a TC and who is a Turk from Turkey from just by their names anymore, because I can't separate the Two.

I hope I was able to explain myself clearly.

I am afraid you have confused me even more. In your previos post you claimed a name to be non-Cypriot (which requires that you know or have a definition of what a "Cypriot name" actually is), but now you are saying:

I can't tell who is actually a TC and who is a Turk from Turkey from just by their names anymore, because I can't separate the Two

If you don`t know what a Cypriot name is or cant distinguish it, than how were you able to claim that the guy`s name is non-Cypriot?

Yes, I can see where I have got you confused Murataga. Let me try again.

The names that does not sound "Cypriot", are the same names that sound like the ones from Turkey for Turks. When the TC's were forced to adopt "new" Family names (surname) few years ago, it appears they have adopted names that were not traditional names that has been in Cyprus pre 1974. The names they have adopted, is very similar if not same as the names you will find in Turkey, or very much close in style and sounding. This makes it very difficult to distinguish a Turk from a TC when only reading their names. In another words, I doubt very much that, if one were to open a "TRNC" telephone book and read all the surnames of all those that are listed, that you would find too many of these names in another telephone book that was issued before 1974.