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[BirKibrisli]

And you pretend to be a hero.......

You are petrified to stand up for yourself and fight like a man.Not unless there are 40,000 troops and 500 tanks to protect you. And you call me a coward????


You are afraid of letting go of your "mother's" skirt,and put up a struggle to maintain your dignity and identity....and you call me a coward???


You are proud of calling a pariah state run by crooks and drug dealers and gamblers and casino operators,built on stolen land,recognised by no one....and you call me a fool????

You have betrayed the land you were born in,your motherland,Cyprus,
and plotted to deliver half of it to a foreign power....and you are calling me a traitor????

You have sacrificed true freedom and liberty,and the chance to become an examplary multicultural nation,for temporary and imaginary safety...
and you call me a coward????

You have chosen bitterness and hatred over understanding and trust...and you call me a fool???????

You have not one ounce of empathy or compasion for your compatriots....and you are calling me a traitor?????

I can go on forever,but I think you've got my drift!




Huck touuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!

[denizaksulu]

.. talats been begging for re-unification?.. oh so much!
he wants PARITITION he wants a recognised TRNC far from re-unification

You have to see what Talat says as Politiking, just as Tpap. Its not what they say that matters. They are bargaining tools. All negotiable, one hopes. They are all liars as some else says.

[humanist]

If Turkey is refused entry it is not the end of the world for Turkey. Majority of people in Turkey have lost confidence in the EU and do not believe that they will ever be allowed to join a xenophobic and racist EU anyway. The fact is that with the situation the EU is in it will be better for Turkey in the long run if they stay out of the EU for may different reasons.

BIG FAT BULLSHIT, if you have lost confidence in EU why are your leaders chasing it. This is so lame even on this matter you live in liars world. Get over it, you are waiting at the edge of your pants to get into EU otherwise you would have by now said fuck you we are joining up with ............ The fact that you have not done that you are very much after EU membership and all the perks. If you are going to talk up that you do not need or want EU membership then put your sock in your mouth and mnove along.

Next pls>>>>>>>

[Viewpoint]

If Turkey is refused entry it is not the end of the world for Turkey. Majority of people in Turkey have lost confidence in the EU and do not believe that they will ever be allowed to join a xenophobic and racist EU anyway. The fact is that with the situation the EU is in it will be better for Turkey in the long run if they stay out of the EU for may different reasons.

BIG FAT BULLSHIT, if you have lost confidence in EU why are your leaders chasing it. This is so lame even on this matter you live in liars world. Get over it, you are waiting at the edge of your pants to get into EU otherwise you would have by now said fuck you we are joining up with ............ The fact that you have not done that you are very much after EU membership and all the perks. If you are going to talk up that you do not need or want EU membership then put your sock in your mouth and mnove along.

Next pls>>>>>>>

When in the last year have you seen Turkey pursuing their EU "dream" all Turkey has to do is maintain a EU perspective whether or not she is progressing towards that goal doesnt matter as long as the foreign invstment will continue to roll in she cant lose. EU membership for Turkey is years and years away and by then she may even decide not to enter, Today the Turkish people couldnt give a shit about the EU as they have come to understand that they are not really wanted by certain racists nations and that they are on their own. There is and always will be life outside of the EU, people like you think that its the be all and end all but its not, life continues.

[Nikitas]

Tureky already has a customs agreement with the EU, meaning goods travle freely to and from Turkey to the EU. This leads to a close tying of the Turkish economy to the EU.

MR Babacan, the chief negotiator of Turkey's EU bid, is now foreign minister of Turkey, proof that the EU process is high on the agenda. One way or another Turkey cannot ignore the EU and refuse to become a full member or have a special relationship with the EU. Without close ties life cannot continue as before for Turkey.

[zan]

And you pretend to be a hero.......

You are petrified to stand up for yourself and fight like a man.Not unless there are 40,000 troops and 500 tanks to protect you. And you call me a coward????


You are afraid of letting go of your "mother's" skirt,and put up a struggle to maintain your dignity and identity....and you call me a coward???


You are proud of calling a pariah state run by crooks and drug dealers and gamblers and casino operators,built on stolen land,recognised by no one....and you call me a fool????

You have betrayed the land you were born in,your motherland,Cyprus,
and plotted to deliver half of it to a foreign power....and you are calling me a traitor????

You have sacrificed true freedom and liberty,and the chance to become an examplary multicultural nation,for temporary and imaginary safety...
and you call me a coward????

You have chosen bitterness and hatred over understanding and trust...and you call me a fool???????

You have not one ounce of empathy or compasion for your compatriots....and you are calling me a traitor?????

I can go on forever,but I think you've got my drift!




Huck touuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!

Now give us a version of who and what runs the "RoC" and lets compare....Please everyone....I would like Bir to answer this because I want to know what sort of "RoC" he thinks we can join without worry or care.....


Please do not use the GC line of "They are in the EU so they must be OK" !

[zan]

Tureky already has a customs agreement with the EU, meaning goods travle freely to and from Turkey to the EU. This leads to a close tying of the Turkish economy to the EU.

MR Babacan, the chief negotiator of Turkey's EU bid, is now foreign minister of Turkey, proof that the EU process is high on the agenda. One way or another Turkey cannot ignore the EU and refuse to become a full member or have a special relationship with the EU. Without close ties life cannot continue as before for Turkey.

What better position to be in!!!!!! Producing EU standard products and selling it them without the penalties of the EU...........Turkey....The fastest growing economy in the world.......At the moment.

[Nikitas]

Zan,

I can see your point, and it is hard not to be sarcastic- keeping EU ties to the business part, avoiding full membership and all that crap about human rights and the thorny problems of religious freedom, the right of minorities to cultural identity, the army in politics etc. One might say it is the best of both worlds, assuming the British and the Americans will allow Turkey to maintain such a privileged position, because they are the ones that want Turkey to get into the EU more than Turkey itself.

[Kikapu]

Isn't it funny that once the Greeks lose the argument they start to act silly and try to distract from the subject on hand?

Any apologies for spreading lies about the name changes in the KKTC or are you all going into hiding again like GR does when he can't get out of the mess he gets himself into.

What are the lies about name changes in the "TRNC" Ali Dayi.??

Are they not happening.??

Is there not a law that requires a name change.??

If your name is common or that name is being used by another person, are you not "forced" to find some other "bum fuck name" so that it is different, no matter how stupid or non traditional Cypriot the name may sounds.

So, the later a TC comes to live in the "TRNC", the more difficult it's going to be to find a decent name to call yourself, even if you had that name all your life.

Did I miss anything else.???

It is obvious from every one of your postings that you hate anything Turkish although you claim to be a TC. You have been proven wrong about the name you claimed was not Turkish Cypriot but you are still playing the silly bagger, no skin off my nose mate, it shows your true colors.

I guess you must be ashamed of your father to want to have a different surname to him. What did he do that was so wrong, save your miserable hide from getting murdered by the Greek and GC EOKA scum?

Eric dayi,

I'm not talking about just "one name" you fool. I personally welcome having a "permanent Surname/ Family name". I'm talking about the whole system of "forced" name change. We always had Surnames, that's not the issue. The issue is, why couldn't the person keep their own name as their "Official Surname/ Family Name" without having to change it to something totally different, so that it is different than someone else's.

This is precisely the reason why I didn't answer your silly questions.

What was/is your family/surname? Was it your fathers firstname like Hasan, Mehmet, Ismail or something like Topaloglu, Davulcuoglu, Boyacioglu maybe?

What is your first name, Ahmet, Mehmet, Riza, Ismail?

Is your fathers surname the same as yours and your mothers?

In every country people are "forced" one way or another to adopt a family name and a first name is not accepted as a family name. People here in the west were known as "Son of" Ie: "Son of John" which in time became "Johnson". Smith was a tradesmen that also became a surname. I would have thought that a "clever" man like you would know all about this.

It appears most of the names tend to resemble names from Turkey, since there are more names to choose from I guess, where one is able to "disect" a NAME and get many different versions out of it.. Some of the names people made up, due to lack of Joice, is absolute rubbish and has no connection to "Traditional Turkish Cypriot Names"..

There is no such thing as a "traditional" Turkish Cypriot name, any name you choose now or chose before the GCs tried to genocide us was and is and does resemble Turkish names because they are Turkish names you fool.

Be careful what you say, because it can come and bite you right in the Ass. You accuse others of distracting from the issue when they lose an argument, which is exactly what you have done. You did not answer my questions at all, instead went on about NOTHING just to prove what a fool you really are.

The only thing you have proven here is that you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about and make noise just for the sake of it to score points with your GC chams.

With every post you confirm your hate against anything Turkish and hate the fact that you were born a Turk and have a Turkish name. I really feel sorry for lost people like you and Bir but your downfall is your own fault.

Here, read your own words again.

Isn't it funny that once the Greeks lose the argument they start to act silly and try to distract from the subject on hand?

Any apologies for spreading lies about the name changes in the KKTC or are you all going into hiding again like GR does when he can't get out of the mess he gets himself into?

So you have become the mouthpiece for the GCs as well now have you? You are a fool to yourself you fool.

It appears one is not allowed to have a conversation with another TC and disagree with the issue at hand without having being a "mouthpiece" or an "agent" of the GC's, just because they may have a different point of view.

OK, so you do not believe in Democracy and Freedom of Speech.

Once again, read what you have yourself written.

Isn't it funny that once the Greeks lose the argument they start to act silly and try to distract from the subject on hand?

Any apologies for spreading lies about the name changes in the KKTC or are you all going into hiding again like GR does when he can't get out of the mess he gets himself into?

[zan]

Zan,

I can see your point, and it is hard not to be sarcastic- keeping EU ties to the business part, avoiding full membership and all that crap about human rights and the thorny problems of religious freedom, the right of minorities to cultural identity, the army in politics etc. One might say it is the best of both worlds, assuming the British and the Americans will allow Turkey to maintain such a privileged position, because they are the ones that want Turkey to get into the EU more than Turkey itself.

And they have great need of them but Turkey will have to improve still on those issues that you chose to be sarcastic about because of not wanting to be seen to do business with a country that does not have those qualities....So it will change...Have no doubt about that....The two main reasons that the US and the UK want Turkey are sufficient for them to stay in a position of power...As long as they do not over play their hand of course......