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[metecyp]

Until today I thought that there was at least something unfair for the TCs too in those agreements. Apparently the only ones who were getting screwed by the British plans were us (not surprising actually)

Can you explain this?

[Piratis]

Can you explain this?

Explain what? the divide and rule tactics of the British?

The British don't want one united Cypriot people in Cyprus. They want two conflicting ones. Is there any doubt about this?

[cannedmoose]

Can you explain this?

Explain what? the divide and rule tactics of the British?

The British don't want one united Cypriot people in Cyprus. They want two conflicting ones. Is there any doubt about this?

Yes Piratis, there is... to be honest Cyprus isn't the greatest concern of the UK government, so a reliable status quo means it remains comfortably low on the government's radar... any change would require an investment of time and resources that they really can't be bothered with. I doubt that the UK government really 'wants' a divided Cyprus, but they're happy enough for the situation to be stable, albeit imperfect.

However, as soon as something changes to destabilise things, such as the prospect of Turkey's candidacy being delayed by the issue, I think you'll see the UK government act to protect their interests in any settlement.

I'm not saying that in the past 'divide and rule' wasn't the strategy, it plainly was as James Callaghan said in 1959 about the Zurich-London Agreements. But there isn't such an active policy these days my friend, that's just a bout of Cypriot 'they must be either talking about us, or plotting against us' paranoia kicking in.

[Piratis]

But there isn't such an active policy these days my friend, that's just a bout of Cypriot 'they must be either talking about us, or plotting against us' paranoia kicking in.

Cannedmoose, if the Cypriot people were united, and especially now that Cyprus is within EU, the biggest military base that the British have outside UK, in the most sensitive area of the world, could be lost.

Don't underplay the importance that the British give to Cyprus. It is as important for them now as it was in 1960, and maintaining the division of the Cypriot people is in the core of their policy.

[turkcyp]

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[Piratis]

Cypriot People...LOL

Turkcyp, as long as you believe that you can achieve to be separated from other Cypriots in a way that will bring many benefits (especially financial ones) to you on the loss of other Cypriots, it is obvious that you will support that there are two peoples in Cyprus, were your "people" are the ones who get benefited with super privileges and disproportionately large power.

Greediness is part of the human nature. Why be just Cypriot, when you can be "super Cypriot"? This will change when the time will come that you will realize that you can not be "super Cypriot" but this separation actually makes you "sub Cypriot". At that time you will come yourself to demand to be just Cypriot without any racial discriminations that now you demand.

[Kifeas]

The British don't want one united Cypriot people in Cyprus. They want two conflicting ones. Is there any doubt about this?

I fully agree with this Piratis. They created all the problems in this country. Not only in this country but in every other place they have gone and left. And they perfectly know that ones a properly united Cyprus comes about, their turn will come. They even sneeked in this Annan plan, territtorial waters and air-space for their bases. They think we are like some stubid aborigins they found in Afrika or australia.

[insan]

The British don't want one united Cypriot people in Cyprus. They want two conflicting ones. Is there any doubt about this?

I fully agree with this Piratis. They created all the problems in this country. Not only in this country but in every other place they have gone and left. And they perfectly know that ones a properly united Cyprus comes about, their turn will come. They even sneeked in this Annan plan, territtorial waters and air-space for their bases. They think we are like some stubid aborigins they found in Afrika or australia.

I'm sure, if Brits had helped or help Hellenes to achieve Enosis or a Hellene dominated Cyprus; Hellenes would grant Brits not only 2 sovereign base areas in Cyprus but give perhaps %10 of the Cyprus. You still can't see how the alliances and retrospection of people are shaped on the common interests of countries and differ within the different political gorups of the countries.

How all those pro-x, pro-y, pro-z have been initiated in Cyprus? Do they all share the same view concerning Brits, Greece, Hellenism, Turkey, Turkismos Kypros, Hellenismos Kypros, EU, US, Middle East etc? Will they ever share the same view about them?


Ps: On what principles the newly elected GC representatives took oath in South? They didn't refer it in GCCS constitution but I'm sure they take oath on some principles before they take their offices? Is it something related Hellenismos Kypros?

[turkcyp]

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[Piratis]

Turcyp,

Kurds in Turkey own a specific region in Turkey (and other countries).

TCs/GCs in Cyprus, (like Black/Whites in USA) do not own any part of the country. This is a MAJOR difference you choose to overlook.

If it was like you want it, every racial/religious community in every multiracial, multireligious country would demand to be separated and given its own federal state (by removing from that area the majority of the population), super privilages and 50% power like you ask.

As I said to viewpoint some posts ago, if you owned a specific part of Cyprus (like Kurds do) I would have told you to get your part and do whatever you want. However you do not have such part. You are the 18% of people of the whole Cyprus.

You are no so unique at it. There are many groups of people that do not own a specific part of the country and have different race/religion/culture from the majority. Do you know any other such group that demands the things you do?

You will stop the outrageous demands only when you realize that in fact you will never gain, but actually lose, from having such unfair demands.