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[Viewpoint]

Kifeas

Mama Türka is here to protect you.

Thank God, the more I get to know GCs and their views and attitudes the more I thank god (and Mama Turka).

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We do not complain, like you do all the time in this forum, for the 40,000 troops, the 500 tanks, the 100 howitzers and all the various missiles that Mama Türka hides inside Kyrenia Mountains. Why do you complain to us?

Kifeas my friend please read back dates posts in the forum and be honest firstly to yourself, a day doesnt go by when GCs dont complain about the presence of the Turkish Army its one of their major concerns how could they not complain.

Now on our side, these guns are strictly regulated. Before each gun is given to a reserve, it is fired so that the gun’s shooting prints (like fingerprints,) are recorded together with the serial number. If anyone uses one of these guns, then immediately they know from the shell imprints, which gun fired. There are very strict penalties, including imprisonment, for anyone using a gun without authorisation. Did you sense, if and whenever you crossed to the south, that there are any people around, pointing their guns to you? Did you notice anyone holding one such gun and walking around the streets?

These are feeble excuses at trying to warrant having these guns in your homes, they are useless against the might of the Turkish army the only use they could be is to kill TCs that you come accross in we assume times of war??? The South also has a large army with guns and tanks bombs, the expenditure levels you mention confirm this fact. My concern and utter alarm and i say this with great disappointment is the fact that I meet with GCs I go to their homes they come to mine we eat and drink together, yet they have a gun in their home to be used against the north (me included) if there should be a war??they also keep this fact a secret which I also find sickening and not anything to do with true genuine friendship. The mentality behind storing these guns is a reflection of GCs views be it your administration be it yourselves, from what Piratis says you are happy to store these guns to be used against us, if in this time of trying to reconcile with TCs you are happy with this outlook then good luck to you, but if I were in your shoes I wouldnt make excuses for storing a weapon (which 90% of you have done) to be used against you and I would acknowledge that I hate this fact and dispise my Government for making me do this, it only breeds hate and encourages the killing instinct in many of you, no need to mention names.

Kifeas, lets say if I bought a gun and a tank to use against you, i promise to only use them in times of war would that be perfectly acceptable to you?? where does it all end??

[Kifeas]

Kifeas, lets say if I bought a gun and a tank to use against you, i promise to only use them in times of war would that be perfectly acceptable to you?? where does it all end??

But you already do it! I mean Turkey does it on your behalf, as she claims. We do not have anyone to do it on our behalf and therefore we are forced to do it by ourselves. I think I gave you some very sound explanations Viewpoint about this issue. It is meaningless to continue any more on this subject.

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas could you kindly do me the courtesy of giving me a straight answer , the issue is not who buys the guns or who has more weapons or who is helping who, the question is simple;

Is it OK for me to get a gun, tank and bomb and keep them at home, promising only to use them against you if there should war??????

YES or NO will suffice.

[magikthrill]

Is it OK for me to get a gun, tank and bomb and keep them at home, promising only to use them against you if there should war??????

YES or NO will suffice.

I think your question has already been answered. Last time I checked there are plenty of guns tanks and bombs in occupied Cyprus.

[Kifeas]

Kifeas could you kindly do me the courtesy of giving me a straight answer , the issue is not who buys the guns or who has more weapons or who is helping who, the question is simple;

Is it OK for me to get a gun, tank and bomb and keep them at home, promising only to use them against you if there should war??????

YES or NO will suffice.

If it will make you happier my friend, do it! Make sure you do it in a legal way (legal according to "TRNC".) In any case, you are not the target of GCs.

THE END

[Viewpoint]

Is it ok for me to keep them at home??? you cant even give a straight answer here Yes or NO...typical.

[Saint Jimmy]

Is it ok for me to keep them at home??? you cant even give a straight answer here Yes or NO...typical.

Yes, Viewpoint, it would be ok. What difference would it make, one more gun, one more tank, one more anything?
The only difference I see is that you would be keeping it because you want to keep it. This is not the case with us. I would give you mine, if I could. I don't want it.
You are overreacting with this.
If there is a war, even if we didn't keep rifles at home, we would still get them quite shortly. This is the alternative option, if our government decides that we can't keep guns in our homes anymore: we'll be given the guns within hours, in case of war. What is the difference? I'll tell you what the difference is: that in the latter case, you wouldn't have an excuse to use for supporting partition. That's why you wouldn't be complaining about it, not because it would have made any real difference on the number of guns available.

[metecyp]

But you already do it! I mean Turkey does it on your behalf, as she claims. We do not have anyone to do it on our behalf and therefore we are forced to do it by ourselves.

It's the same syndrome of "giving excuses" for wrong actions.

TC: The RoC has Greek national anthem.
GC: What do you expect when 1/3 of my country is occupied.

TC: TCs are not allowed to claim their properties back in the south and the RoC claim to be legal
GC: What do you expect when 200.000 refugees are denied to access their properties?

TC: How come no GC polician even talks about return of TCs to the RoC? It seems like you guys don't want to share the RoC.
GC: What do you expect when TCs have their illegal TRNC?

TC: The history education in the south is very biased.
GC: What do you expect when 200.000 refugees are still denied of their basic human rights.

TC: You have guns at homes.
GC: What do you expect when there're 40.000 Turkish soldiers?

And the conversation goes on...The point I'm trying to make is many GCs try to put the blame on "invasion and occupation" by reacting in a certain way but they don't realize how their reaction is also wrong. Then, many GCs play the innocent peaceful Cypriots being invaded by evil Turks.

It's time to realize that we both made bad choices and we both still doing wrong things and not one side is innocent. Cyprus problem will be solved when we both correct our mistakes.

[Kifeas]

It's time to realize that we both made bad choices and we both still doing wrong things and not one side is innocent. Cyprus problem will be solved when we both correct our mistakes.

Metecyp, I fully agree with your above statement.
However, on the particular issue of having National Guard given riffles at home, what answer to you expect a GC should give to someone like Viewpoint, who keeps bringing it up all the time? Is it our choice not to have them at home, when we are required by the state to do so? You do not see any valid reason at all, for such a need? Aren’t we entitled to the right of self-defence, in view of the presence of a much stronger army next to us?

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas

If it will make you happier my friend, do it! Make sure you do it in a legal way (legal according to "TRNC".) In any case, you are not the target of GCs.

"In any case, you are not the target of GCs" Have heard this somewhere, when was it 1963, 1974??

If you havent noticed I hate guns thats why I have reacted this way,so it will not make me happy to buy one, but I to have to think of my family in the face of your communities current general practice.

Viewpoint wrote:

Is it OK for me to get a gun, tank and bomb and keep them at home, promising only to use them against you if there should war??????

YES or NO will suffice.

Saint Jimmy

Yes, Viewpoint, it would be ok.
The only difference I see is that you would be keeping it because you want to keep it.

Thanks for your answer although riddled with passing the buck to others attitude nevertheless at least you admit you dont want to keep them thats a plus in my book, as for me wanting to keep a gun as I said above I hate them but have to be prepared to protect my family against GC mindset & practice, dont worry I promise to only use mine against you if there is a war.