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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:56 pm

devil wrote:
twinkle wrote:Err isn't this a forum for free thinking????? :shock:

Obviously I am mistaken :roll:


Thinking, yes. But vapid speculation and repeating rumours requires no thought, any more than two housewives in their curlers and hair nets gossiping over the garden fence about their neighbour's pretended infidelity with the plumber. What you seem to forget is that conjecture can be libellous.

In this case, we have zero facts other than it appears the kid is missing. Whether she was abducted, murdered, died accidentally, was drugged or anything else or whether the parent(s) are directly responsible or not, they are all pure hypotheses dredged up by fertile imaginations. One hypothesis may turn out to be true; time will tell (I hope). But neither you nor I can give any real thought to the matter because we know nothing, therefore we cannot think round the facts. Anything else is speculation.



Are you still here? Is this the 'thought police?'
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Postby T_C » Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:06 pm

The police case against Kate and Gerry McCann was submitted to the public prosecutor today, amid conflicting reports about the nature of the DNA case against them.


Gerry McCann and lawyer leaving Portimao station
According to police briefings given to Portuguese journalists, the samples found in the back of the McCanns' car were not blood but other "bodily fluids". These have provided an 88 per cent DNA match to Madeleine.

So much of Madeleine's hair was also found in the vehicle's boot that it must have come directly from her body, and not just been transferred from clothing or a toy, according to the briefing.

This conflicts with claims from British sources that the police's case is based on blood found in the silver Renault Scenic car hired 25 days after Madeleine disappeared.

It was claimed yesterday that the blood was a 100 per cent match, although this was played down this morning.

Ten volumes of evidence were today handed over in stages to Jose Cunha de Magalhaes e Meneses, the district attorney based in Portimao.

They outline the Portuguese police's version of events surrounding Madeleine's disappearance from Praia da Luz on May 3.

Detectives in the Algarve believe Mrs McCann might have killed her daughter by accident while her husband helped cover up the crime.

Mr Meneses will sift through a large amount of evidence, including the results from the Forensic Science Services in Birmingham.

Mr Meneses will also look at the toxicology reports and the interviews carried out with the couple last week.

A Portuguese police source said Mrs McCann's inability to sufficiently explain why traces of Madeleine's blood were found in the back of the hire car only added to the case against them.

The part-time GP was also asked why the "smell of death" was picked up on her clothes by specialist sniffer dogs.

Once he has studied the report, Mr Meneses has several options open to him.

He can order renewed police activity, such as searches of specific properties or sites.

He can upgrade the cautionary measures - or restrictions - on the couple, summoning them back to the Algarve and even placing them in custody if he felt it necessary.

If Mr Meneses decides there is enough evidence to call the McCanns before a criminal judge, he will notify the lawyers involved.

Police in Portugal are convinced that the couple are connected to their daughter's death.

A source said: "The investigation is far from finished. "Investigators are trying to demonstrate that her death in the apartment was an accident, negligence or provoked."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... ddy911.xml
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Postby allanm » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:06 am

Devil, if you don't agree with what people are saying WHY ARE YOU READING IT !!! there are other topics on here.
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Postby Joan » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:14 am

Garagoz wrote:The police case against Kate and Gerry McCann was submitted to the public prosecutor today, amid conflicting reports about the nature of the DNA case against them.


Gerry McCann and lawyer leaving Portimao station
According to police briefings given to Portuguese journalists, the samples found in the back of the McCanns' car were not blood but other "bodily fluids". These have provided an 88 per cent DNA match to Madeleine.

So much of Madeleine's hair was also found in the vehicle's boot that it must have come directly from her body, and not just been transferred from clothing or a toy, according to the briefing.

This conflicts with claims from British sources that the police's case is based on blood found in the silver Renault Scenic car hired 25 days after Madeleine disappeared.

It was claimed yesterday that the blood was a 100 per cent match, although this was played down this morning.

Ten volumes of evidence were today handed over in stages to Jose Cunha de Magalhaes e Meneses, the district attorney based in Portimao.

They outline the Portuguese police's version of events surrounding Madeleine's disappearance from Praia da Luz on May 3.

Detectives in the Algarve believe Mrs McCann might have killed her daughter by accident while her husband helped cover up the crime.

Mr Meneses will sift through a large amount of evidence, including the results from the Forensic Science Services in Birmingham.

Mr Meneses will also look at the toxicology reports and the interviews carried out with the couple last week.

A Portuguese police source said Mrs McCann's inability to sufficiently explain why traces of Madeleine's blood were found in the back of the hire car only added to the case against them.

The part-time GP was also asked why the "smell of death" was picked up on her clothes by specialist sniffer dogs.

Once he has studied the report, Mr Meneses has several options open to him.

He can order renewed police activity, such as searches of specific properties or sites.

He can upgrade the cautionary measures - or restrictions - on the couple, summoning them back to the Algarve and even placing them in custody if he felt it necessary.

If Mr Meneses decides there is enough evidence to call the McCanns before a criminal judge, he will notify the lawyers involved.

Police in Portugal are convinced that the couple are connected to their daughter's death.

A source said: "The investigation is far from finished. "Investigators are trying to demonstrate that her death in the apartment was an accident, negligence or provoked."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... ddy911.xml


thanks for the info Garaoz. The timesonline (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 422967.ece)says more or less the same.
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Postby bambam » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:10 pm

I never thought the parent were involved and I still dont. The Portuguese police are desperate to end this case because of so much pressure on them so they are framinf the parents. They are now saying that the disappearance of the little portuguese girl in 2004 may have a connection. Poor little girls. Madeleine is always in my thoughts, but I am beginning to really think she may be dead now. What a wicked world we live in.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:19 pm

bambam wrote:I never thought the parent were involved and I still dont. The Portuguese police are desperate to end this case because of so much pressure on them so they are framinf the parents. They are now saying that the disappearance of the little portuguese girl in 2004 may have a connection. Poor little girls. Madeleine is always in my thoughts, but I am beginning to really think she may be dead now. What a wicked world we live in.



Follow the news carefully. They do not deserve to be parents. Worse is still to come. It is admirable that you still give them the benefit of the doubt. :cry:
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Postby Joan » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:43 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
bambam wrote:I never thought the parent were involved and I still dont. The Portuguese police are desperate to end this case because of so much pressure on them so they are framinf the parents. They are now saying that the disappearance of the little portuguese girl in 2004 may have a connection. Poor little girls. Madeleine is always in my thoughts, but I am beginning to really think she may be dead now. What a wicked world we live in.



Follow the news carefully. They do not deserve to be parents. Worse is still to come. It is admirable that you still give them the benefit of the doubt. :cry:


Unfortunately bambam Deniz is right ! Facts point to the parents direction. And yes this is a wicked world we live in with so many crimes happening insite families like killings, rapes, sexual harassments, beattings etc.
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Postby Southerner » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:49 pm

I think that at this moment in time the worst that they can be accused of is neglect due to leaving the chidren unattended at such an early age.
Witchunts only stir up hysteria, suspiction is one thing; and quite rightly can be expressed, but blind accusations are of no help.
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Postby tessintrnc » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:03 pm

On Yahoo news they say that the body fluid in the car showed that maddy had consumed a significant amount of sleeping tablets and may have overdosed.
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